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Adopt-A-State completed! Thanks everyone!

Post by 03152016 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:44 am

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Brut wrote:OK FOLKS
adopt-a-state 2014 has now come to a close


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thank you all for putting in the time to make this project happen
as i said earlier, bc of what we've done here, thousands of prospective law students will be exposed to the information they need to make informed decisions about attending law schools
i'm drunk so pardon my sentimentality, but i think we probably changed some people's lives for the better
and hopefully will be contributing to the decline of a few particularly egregious scam schools
u guys all rock
RAFFLE TIME
Three lucky participants in Adopt-A-State 2014 will receive a $10 gift certificate to their choice of Chipotle, Five Guys, Panera Bread, or Starbucks! If you have completed a school, you qualify!

Here's how to enter:

1) Post in this thread with your entry information by July 27 at 9:00 PM.

2) If you completed all schools in a state, list that state and the number of schools you completed. If you completed only some of the schools in a state, list that state and list the schools you completed. Each school will count as one entry.

3) On July 27 at 10:00 PM EST, I will assign each entry a number and will post in this thread.

4) At 10:30 PM EST, I will run a random number generator three times. The three numbers drawn will win their choice of a $10 gift certificate to Chipotle, Five Guys, Panera, or Starbucks!

4) There is a limit of one winning entry per participant. In the event that one person has more than one of their entries chosen, additional random numbers will be generated.

5) I will then PM the winners for next steps.

Good luck!
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==UPDATES==
Everyone in this thread is awesome. Thanks for taking the time to adopt a state.

At this point, there are still several dozen schools left, and seventeen unfinished states. As an incentive, I am announcing FABULOUS PRIZES to the participants of Adopt-A-State 2014.

Three lucky winners, chosen at random, will receive a $10 gift card to their choice of Chipotle, Five Guys, Panera Bread, or Starbucks!!!!

When the last state is complete, I will check the Wikipedia entry for every ABA accredited LS to make sure everything is completed properly. Then, on the honor system, everyone who would like to participate in the raffle will submit a list of schools they completed. For each school they submit they will receive a number. I will then film myself running a random number generator three times to pick three numbers. The person to whom each number is assigned will be a winner!

(Fine print: limited to one prize per poster, sorry MG. Entries will be accepted once I've finished checking the last school. Posters have 24 hours from that point to post their schools ITT.)

Four fabulous eateries! Three chances to win!
Now go Adopt-A-State!

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One of the first place prospective students look for information about law schools is Wikipedia. Unfortunately, as many of us know, most Wikipedia entries on law schools are 100% marketing fluff with zero useful information. I think TLS can change that.

I propose that TLS users agree to adopt a state. Once a user adopts a state, he or she will edit the Wikipedia entry for each school in that state so that it includes relevant and up-to-date employment and cost information. We can find this information on the school's official website, and on LST (Law School Transparency).

Here's an example:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_N ... ool_of_Law

I found Cardozo's FT/LT/JD-required employment statistics on LST, and posted them at the bottom the opening summary to the Wikipedia article, citing the official Cardozo ABA required disclosures (where LST gets its information).
According to Cardozo's 2013 ABA-required disclosures, 54.3% of the Class of 2013 obtained full-time, long-term, JD-required employment nine months after graduation.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://cardozo.yu.edu/your-career/empl ... statistics |title=Employment Statistics}}</ref>
Then I added two sections to the article - one for employment and one for costs. I found the underemployment statistics on LST, the cost of attendance on Cardozo's website, and the LST estimated debt-financed COA on LST. A quick way to find the relevant information on a school's website is to Google the name of the school + "ABA required disclosures" or "cost of attendance".
== Employment ==
According to Cardozo's official 2013 ABA-required disclosures, 54.3% of the Class of 2013 obtained full-time, long-term, JD-required employment nine months after graduation.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://cardozo.yu.edu/your-career/empl ... statistics |title=Employment Statistics}}</ref> Cardozo's Law School Transparency under-employment score is 25.1%, indicating the percentage of the Class of 2013 unemployed, pursuing an additional degree, or working in a non-professional, short-term, or part-time job nine months after graduation.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/cardozo/2013 |title=Cardozo-Yeshiva University Profile}}</ref>

==Costs==
The total cost of attendance (indicating the cost of tuition, fees, and living expenses) at Cardozo for the 2013-2014 academic year is $76,521.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.cardozo.yu.edu/node/2903 |title=Tuition and Expenses}}</ref> The Law School Transparency estimated debt-financed cost of attendance for three years is $294,257.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.lstscorereports.com/schools/ ... costs/2013 |title=Cardozo-Yeshiva University Profile}}</ref>
You can use the template below if you'd like, replacing the figures and citations with whatever school you're working on.
(introduction paragraph)
According to xxxxxxxxxxxx's 2013 ABA-required disclosures, xxxxxxxxxx% of the Class of 2013 obtained full-time, long-term, JD-required employment nine months after graduation, excluding solo practitioners.<ref>{{cite web|url=SCHOOLSITExxxxx |title=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx}}</ref>

== Employment ==
According to xxxxxxxxxx's official 2013 ABA-required disclosures, xxxxxxxxxx% of the Class of 2013 obtained full-time, long-term, JD-required employment nine months after graduation, excluding solo-practitioners.<ref>{{cite web|url=SCHOOLSITExxxxxxxxx |title=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx}}</ref> xxxxxxxxxx's [[Law School Transparency]] under-employment score is xxxxxxxx%, indicating the percentage of the Class of 2013 unemployed, pursuing an additional degree, or working in a non-professional, short-term, or part-time job nine months after graduation.<ref>{{cite web|url=LSTxxxxxxxxx |title=xxxxxxxxxx Profile}}</ref>

==Costs==
The total cost of attendance (indicating the cost of tuition, fees, and living expenses) at xxxxxxxxxxx for the 20xxxxxx-20xxxxx academic year is $xxxxxxxxxx.<ref>{{cite web|url=SCHOOLSITExxxxxxxxx |title=xxxxxxxxxxx}}</ref> The Law School Transparency estimated debt-financed cost of attendance for three years is $xxxxxxxxxxx.<ref>{{cite web|url=LSTxxxxxxxxxxxx |title=xxxxxxxxxxxxx Profile}}</ref>
Adopting a state, especially one with few schools, will take a minimal amount of time. It's possible to get a school done in under five minutes. And your actions will help give tens of thousands of applicants access to information they had no idea existed. They'll be able to make more informed decisions about where to attend, and hopefully they'll continue their research on LST, a great resource. This project will balance those law school articles that are mostly marketing fluff, and you'll be doing something positive to help prospective students (beyond those who stumble into the Choosing forum by chance).

So who's up to adopt a state?

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Post by Nova » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:47 am

ill do minn

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Post by 03152016 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:48 am

Nova wrote:ill do minn
sweet let's do this

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Post by ManoftheHour » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:01 am

I was going to do CA but we have 20+ schools. No wonder our market sucks.

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Post by Nova » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:03 am

ManoftheHour wrote:I was going to do CA but we have 20+ schools. No wonder our market sucks.
I saw u posted itt and i wondered "is he really gonna sign up for CA?"

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Post by 03152016 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:05 am

ManoftheHour wrote:I was going to do CA but we have 20+ schools. No wonder our market sucks.
mayb u can do a few and i'll pick up the rest
i'm flying thru these ny ones tbh

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Post by dowu » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:13 am

I'll forgo CA for reasons listed above but I'll volunteer for AZ.

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Post by Dr.Zer0 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:19 am

ManoftheHour wrote:I was going to do CA but we have 20+ schools. No wonder our market sucks.
Dr. Dre would be down. Maybe mp can go in on CA?

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Post by ManoftheHour » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:23 am

Brut wrote:
ManoftheHour wrote:I was going to do CA but we have 20+ schools. No wonder our market sucks.
mayb u can do a few and i'll pick up the rest
i'm flying thru these ny ones tbh
I'll volunteer to help. I'll start tomorrow at work.

This is an amazing idea btw.

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Post by jenesaislaw » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:23 am

Excellent work. Thanks for working the LST cites in. We get a decent amount of traffic to LST from Wikipedia; this will only improve things.

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Post by jenesaislaw » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:25 am

Also, throw a link to LST's Wikipedia page when you cite it for the first time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_School_Transparency

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Post by jk148706 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:29 am

Nvm


Also... Great idea

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Post by dowu » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:36 am

jenesaislaw wrote:Also, throw a link to LST's Wikipedia page when you cite it for the first time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_School_Transparency
Instead of throwing a little blurb at the end of the first section a la Brut, we should try to start a new section talking solely about current employment prospects. I think that topic deserves it's own section.

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Post by 03152016 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:43 am

dowu wrote:
jenesaislaw wrote:Also, throw a link to LST's Wikipedia page when you cite it for the first time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_School_Transparency
Instead of throwing a little blurb at the end of the first section a la Brut, we should try to start a new section talking solely about current employment prospects. I think that topic deserves it's own section.
ya i've been including the employment section as seen above, but it could prob use more info than it has

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Post by should-i-do-it » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:54 am

Did the employment data for the two kansas schools, i'll add cost info later. Great idea btw

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Post by chuckbass » Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:56 am

I'll do Missouri tomorrow

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i can do alaska too

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Post by chuckbass » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:19 am

Nova wrote:i can do alaska too
That's a huge time commitment, you sure you're up for that?

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Post by The Dark Shepard » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:20 am

Nova wrote:i can do alaska too
came in to say this :lol:

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Post by NYSprague » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:32 am

Are you breaking out school funded jobs?

If I have time later this summer when I have a bunch of doctors appointments I will do some. Won't be til late August/ Labor Day.

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Post by oxie » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:51 am

I'll do DC

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Post by Cicero76 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:16 am

I can try to do some Florida schools. There's basically 1 billion of them though.

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Post by Cicero76 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:33 am

I did Florida Coastal's page as a public service. Took forever, mainly bc FL Coastttttal makes their ABA stuff impossible to find on their website. Takes like >10 clicks to get to a secret PDF of their real employment data.

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Post by oxie » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:40 am

Cicero76 wrote:I did Florida Coastal's page as a public service. Took forever, mainly bc FL Coastttttal makes their ABA stuff impossible to find on their website. Takes like >10 clicks to get to a secret PDF of their real employment data.
This should make things easier: http://www.abarequireddisclosures.org/

Ooops, wrong data set... Sorry!
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Post by rahulg91 » Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:44 am

I'll do MI.

P.S. This is a baller project.
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