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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby Peyton » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:53 am

Math. 20,000 will be happy they attended LS and another 20,000 will be disappointed. Unless your family has a firm, or you can land a T-14 and not wind up too far below median you have a good chance of being in the first 20,000 group. Your chances are probably fair if you are at a beloved regional school or upper level Tier 1 with better than median grades. As noted on TLS many times, going to for-profit and lower ranked schools is a gigantic odds-are-against-you crap shoot. Why people go that route remains a mystery.

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby francesfarmer » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:57 am

kappycaft1 wrote:I just noticed the following on this page:
Corporation Wiki wrote:Infilaw Corporation has a location in Naples, FL. Active officers include Rick Inatome, Tom Wippman, Vicky Coen, Birsen Ergun, Marc Applebaum, Edward Blankenship, Ted Blankenship, Pirsen Erdun, Andy Heck, R. Christopher Hoehn-Saric, Rick Inatome, Rhonda Keetz, Don Lively, Don Lively, Chidi Ogene, Chris Schmitz and Dennis Stone. Infilaw Corporation filed as a Foreign for Profit Corporation on Thursday, May 25, 2006 in the state of Florida and is currently active. The company's line of business includes School/Educational Services.

Website: http://www.infilaw.com
Direct Dial: (239) 659-5288
Category: School/Educational ServicesEducational services
Filings: Foreign for Profit Corporation (FL - Active)
State of Record: FL
State Reference ID: F06000003841
File Date: Thursday, May 25, 2006
Active: True
Filing Type: Foreign for Profit Corporation
Sources: Dun & Bradstreet last refreshed 3/13/2013, Florida Department of State last refreshed 3/13/2013

Why is InfiLaw a foreign corporation?? Am I missing something here?

I'm pretty sure foreign in this case just means the corporation was incorporated in another state.

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby Winston1984 » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:57 am

Good work kappycaft1. It would be great if all perspective students could see the data presented here. The tactics used by Phoenix School of Law should be investigated by the ABA.

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby sinfiery » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:23 am

We need to riot or something. This is wrong.

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Postby suzige » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:46 am

Jesus...This is beyond fucked up.

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby justonemoregame » Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:49 am

A couple of sad comments. A link to Infilaw's Board members:

http://www.infilaw.com/our-board

One of them is Rudy Hasl, Dean of Thomas Jefferson School of Law, and, naturally it seems, former Chair of the ABA Section of Legal Education.

Another board member is Arthur R. Miller, an NYU law professor, and one wonders with how much conviction he agreed to support the Coalition of Concerned Colleagues:

http://www.americanbar.org/content/dam/aba/administrative/professional_responsibility/taskforcecomments/032013_coalition_revcomment.authcheckdam.pdf

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby buddyt » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:50 pm

180 thread. PSOL is a joke in the Phoenix area. The only graduates I know who had a good outcome from there either transferred after 1L, or did LS part-time and already had connections.

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby buddyt » Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:03 pm

that article wrote:Specifically, the building was to be occupied by a new 1,300-student law school, complete with 22 classrooms, a law library, a bookstore, a moot courtroom and a cafe.

:shock:

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby untar614 » Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:38 pm

thats hyuuuuge. a lot of ppl that wouldve screwed over. Seriously, the ABA should not be approving any new law schools.

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby Br3v » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:04 pm

Fundamental question: What makes a school "for profit"? I mean, like the t14 turns a profit (right?) so what separates them in this distinction?

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby Mauve Lambeosaur » Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:42 pm

Br3v wrote:Fundamental question: What makes a school "for profit"? I mean, like the t14 turns a profit (right?) so what separates them in this distinction?


For-profits are operated by private, profit-seeking businesses and are backed by (and ultimately accountable to) investors.

not-for-profit is just an IRS category that exempts the school from taxes and allows them to accept tax-deductible contributions (endowments). NFP schools generally direct their money back into the schools' facilities, sports programs, scholarships, etc.

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby justonemoregame » Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:46 pm

I wonder where this 1,300 number comes from. That's another fuckton of 140s-range LSATs. I wonder if the deal fell through because in the group's latest number crunch, their projections didn't look so hot.

untar614 wrote:thats hyuuuuge. a lot of ppl that wouldve screwed over. Seriously, the ABA should not be approving any new law schools.


Too late: Belmont Law School gained provisional approval within the past week. I assume they have to screw up royally to not gain full approval within a couple of years. So now there are 203 ABA-approved law schools.

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby justonemoregame » Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:02 pm

Infilaw has lobbied over $500,000 toward Higher Ed since 2007:

http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000064824&year=2011

You can click on the Bills tab to see which legislation they've supported/opposed

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby shifty_eyed » Sat Jun 15, 2013 12:28 am

justonemoregame wrote:I wonder where this 1,300 number comes from. That's another fuckton of 140s-range LSATs. I wonder if the deal fell through because in the group's latest number crunch, their projections didn't look so hot.

untar614 wrote:thats hyuuuuge. a lot of ppl that wouldve screwed over. Seriously, the ABA should not be approving any new law schools.


Too late: Belmont Law School gained provisional approval within the past week. I assume they have to screw up royally to not gain full approval within a couple of years. So now there are 203 ABA-approved law schools.


We all know the Nashville area has a booming music law industry and there are no other area law schools that feed into this market.

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby Young Marino » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:19 pm

I can't believe that FL Coastal had 648 marticulations. That's 648 special snowflakes

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby dstars823 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:24 pm

tons of kids from my undergrad end up going to charlotte law since its close but its pretty sad to see

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby justonemoregame » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:02 am

ALeal90 wrote:I can't believe that FL Coastal had 648 marticulations. That's 648 special snowflakes


I think they had 580 matriculations last fall. 671 matriculated in fall of 2011, both numbers down from 808 in the fall of 2010, so at least things are trending in the right direction - the 648 number would have matriculated in 2009, so really, the last few years have been a major windfall for this group.

But, neary half of FC students pay full freight, so these are pretty big hits. Also, doesn't take into account steeper discounts to attract current applicants (if such is the case).

About 150 of last year's entering class scored 143 or lower on the LSAT.

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Re: For-Profit Law Schools: InfiLaw

Postby ScottRiqui » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:17 am

justonemoregame wrote:I wonder where this 1,300 number comes from. That's another fuckton of 140s-range LSATs. I wonder if the deal fell through because in the group's latest number crunch, their projections didn't look so hot.

untar614 wrote:thats hyuuuuge. a lot of ppl that wouldve screwed over. Seriously, the ABA should not be approving any new law schools.


Too late: Belmont Law School gained provisional approval within the past week. I assume they have to screw up royally to not gain full approval within a couple of years. So now there are 203 ABA-approved law schools.


So are the last three schools in their own "Tier Five"? I can see it now - "Sure, I'm starting off at Rocco's School of Shitlaw, but I'm gonna be top 10% and transfer up into a T4!"




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