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Overrated Schools
I understand this topic has the potential to turn into a complete shitstorm, but that is not my desire. Are there any tier1/tier2 schools that are ranked too high despite poor employment numbers?
1) I understand that employment numbers are poor for most schools. The question is more an outing of schools that are ranked higher than schools with better employment numbers or an opportunity for schools with good numbers to be highlighted despite lower rankings.
2) I am unconcerned with anyone's ranking of a school based on:
-Student to teacher ratio
-Teaching methods
-Sports teams/Mascots
1) I understand that employment numbers are poor for most schools. The question is more an outing of schools that are ranked higher than schools with better employment numbers or an opportunity for schools with good numbers to be highlighted despite lower rankings.
2) I am unconcerned with anyone's ranking of a school based on:
-Student to teacher ratio
-Teaching methods
-Sports teams/Mascots
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Re: Overrated Schools
Aren't there several threads about this topic already? I doubt much has changed since those threads were posted.
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If you haven't seen it already, you may enjoy this site: http://www.lstscorereports.com/?r=schools
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TLS has a huge hatred towards ASU, I am not entirely sure why, but I believe I read somewhere its because how they gamed the employment data and have a 99% employment rate. I really only posted this to get a clarification on the hatred towards asu, as I am very curious
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People are just jealous because since they climbed in the USNWR rankings employers have gone there in DROVES.Dmini7 wrote:TLS has a huge hatred towards ASU, I am not entirely sure why, but I believe I read somewhere its because how they gamed the employment data and have a 99% employment rate. I really only posted this to get a clarification on the hatred towards asu, as I am very curious
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American is prob the most overrated school based on disconnect between ranking/employment
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Funny enough, I just read the threads where you guys were talking a out employers going there in "DROVES" last night, so that made me chuckle. Thank you.stillwater wrote:People are just jealous because since they climbed in the USNWR rankings employers have gone there in DROVES.Dmini7 wrote:TLS has a huge hatred towards ASU, I am not entirely sure why, but I believe I read somewhere its because how they gamed the employment data and have a 99% employment rate. I really only posted this to get a clarification on the hatred towards asu, as I am very curious
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The Value of the U.S. News Rankings (comparing ranking to employment outcomes)
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Anyone know what that 170th ranked school with a 78.3% employment score is? I thought USNWR didn't rank that low.jenesaislaw wrote:The Value of the U.S. News Rankings (comparing ranking to employment outcomes)
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Cooley. The Dean decided to post the adjusted employment score according to their own scale. In all seriousness I am in the same boat as you, its weird seeing those TTTT with higher scores than T25syou'rethemannowdawg wrote:Anyone know what that 170th ranked school with a 78.3% employment score is? I thought USNWR didn't rank that low.jenesaislaw wrote:The Value of the U.S. News Rankings (comparing ranking to employment outcomes)
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Huh, I wonder which #89 has the decent underemployment score, Hofstra or DePaul?jenesaislaw wrote:The Value of the U.S. News Rankings (comparing ranking to employment outcomes)
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I love BC and I'm happy that I got accepted but from everything I've read on here in the past couple of years it just feels like a school that might be a lot of hype.
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Mostly the schools that are adept at gaming the rankings, etc.
ASU is probably #1 because they are historically about a 50th-ranked school that shot up for no reason. Their placement makes them look like a 50th-ranked school, though.
Indiana-Bloomington is another good example. It's not a terrible school, but it still doesn't belong in the T30. It places more like a T2.
University of Washington is also obscenely high this year. I could see it being ranked around 30-35 or so, but nowhere near 20.
ASU is probably #1 because they are historically about a 50th-ranked school that shot up for no reason. Their placement makes them look like a 50th-ranked school, though.
Indiana-Bloomington is another good example. It's not a terrible school, but it still doesn't belong in the T30. It places more like a T2.
University of Washington is also obscenely high this year. I could see it being ranked around 30-35 or so, but nowhere near 20.
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Re: Overrated Schools
In before anti-NYU, Chicago, and Virginia trolling.
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+4 for you Glen Coco, You go Glen Coco.JCougar wrote:Mostly the schools that are adept at gaming the rankings, etc.
ASU is probably #1 because they are historically about a 50th-ranked school that shot up for no reason. Their placement makes them look like a 50th-ranked school, though.
Indiana-Bloomington is another good example. It's not a terrible school, but it still doesn't belong in the T30. It places more like a T2.
University of Washington is also obscenely high this year. I could see it being ranked around 30-35 or so, but nowhere near 20.
This is what I was hoping for out of the thread. The links are quite useful and appreciated, but sometimes it's nice for a little analysis along with the numbers.
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Harvard. They have a really diluted faculty.
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Umm...something is off. I'll get to the bottom of it, because no school has a 78.3% ES.you'rethemannowdawg wrote:Anyone know what that 170th ranked school with a 78.3% employment score is? I thought USNWR didn't rank that low.jenesaislaw wrote:The Value of the U.S. News Rankings (comparing ranking to employment outcomes)
But to answer your question, 170 is the rank we assigned to all T4s to get them vertical with each other.
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Yeah LSU surprised the hell out of me.Crowing wrote:LSU thugging it up
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It's always nice to see the new crop of TLSers learning that rankings don't matter and that debating tier/ranking placement is idiotic and completely pointless. Oh wait...
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For their ranking, their stats are decent. They are one of the few schools in the T2 that show all their numbers in the NALP directory.Yukos wrote:Yeah LSU surprised the hell out of me.Crowing wrote:LSU thugging it up
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pretty much the definition of a good regionalYukos wrote:Yeah LSU surprised the hell out of me.Crowing wrote:LSU thugging it up
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Schools between 20-50 if the rankings influence people to go there at sticker. The difference between UW or ASU (in the 20s) and UTK or OU (in the 70s) is negligible, and people are influenced to take the former at sticker because of USNWR. Most overrated schools IMO.
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Every school ranked in between UT and Harvard.Aroldis105 wrote:I understand this topic has the potential to turn into a complete shitstorm, but that is not my desire. Are there any tier1/tier2 schools that are ranked too high despite poor employment numbers?
1) I understand that employment numbers are poor for most schools. The question is more an outing of schools that are ranked higher than schools with better employment numbers or an opportunity for schools with good numbers to be highlighted despite lower rankings.
2) I am unconcerned with anyone's ranking of a school based on:
-Student to teacher ratio
-Teaching methods
-Sports teams/Mascots
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