This was stated where?Richie Tenenbaum wrote:We are all Ken?BearsGrl wrote:By everyone, you should predicate that with everyone on TLS, which essentially means no one. You judge everything by statistics, you should know that.Ludovico Technique wrote:I think everyone says so. You're the only one that doesn't.BearsGrl wrote:
If you say so.
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I was taking your statement of "everyone on TLS, which essentially means no one" in support of the argument that we are all really Ken. Don't worry, I agree with you.BearsGrl wrote:This was stated where?Richie Tenenbaum wrote:We are all Ken?BearsGrl wrote:
By everyone, you should predicate that with everyone on TLS, which essentially means no one. You judge everything by statistics, you should know that.
ETA: Or should I say I agree with myself? Oops, I mean I agree with Ken. Or really, as myself as Ken. It can get so very confusing.
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Except it's NOT a given. There are tons of people who know nothing about law schools or legal hiring and stumble upon TLS every day wondering which one of two huge mistakes they should make. These people have not done the research. I think it's a much safer assumption that OP doesn't know just how bad the job prospects are from these two schools than to assume that they will be able to get a job from a place that only places 60% of its graduates in long term legal employment.BearsGrl wrote:
This is a given. I don't know why you would assume that people posting wouldn't be doing the same analysis.
Your statements just don't bear out on the actual people that I know. So if you would like to base your analysis off of old data, go right ahead.
And yes the numbers I'm using are from the class of 2010. That's because those are the most complete employment statistics available. If you would like to counter that with more recent statistics (and by statistics I mean not anecdotes or facebook photos) showing that Stetson is placing better than that now, I would love to see them.
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The data is from the class of 2010...BearsGrl wrote:
This is a given. I don't know why you would assume that people posting wouldn't be doing the same analysis.
Your statements just don't bearsgrl out on the actual people that I know. So if you would like to base your analysis off of old data, go right ahead.
You base your analysis off anecdotes...
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So your future competition can't research? Why would you want to enter such a profession? Do you have any statistical evidence to prove your cause? I'm thinking no. You are also assuming that OP cares about long-term legal employment. I wont provide my anecdotal reason again to disprove this case.Ludovico Technique wrote:Except it's NOT a given. There are tons of people who know nothing about law schools or legal hiring and stumble upon TLS every day wondering which one of two huge mistakes they should make. These people have not done the research. I think it's a much safer assumption that OP doesn't know just how bad the job prospects are from these two schools than to assume that they will be able to get a job from a place that only places 60% of its graduates in long term legal employment.BearsGrl wrote:
This is a given. I don't know why you would assume that people posting wouldn't be doing the same analysis.
Your statements just don't bear out on the actual people that I know. So if you would like to base your analysis off of old data, go right ahead.
And yes the numbers I'm using are from the class of 2010. That's because those are the most complete employment statistics available. If you would like to counter that with more recent statistics (and by statistics I mean not anecdotes or facebook photos) showing that Stetson is placing better than that now, I would love to see them.
So until you produce some statistical analysis saying that X percentage of future law students don't do due diligence research, your talking point is moot. And as I said, I know of no one currently working or who has been offered employment in the legal field who knew about this site. This isn't meant to disparage this site as I think the threads that pertain to actual study strategy are solid. I just think the ones telling X person to not go to X or telling someone to go to X are horrible. Feel free to disagree with that, but the actual people that I know are not using TLS as their go to source. They seem to be coping just fine.
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Statistics are just a collection of anecdotes. I was told years ago by an attorney not to enter the legal fray. Thus, I didn't. Why wouldn't someone else do the same due diligence?Nova wrote:The data is from the class of 2010...BearsGrl wrote:
This is a given. I don't know why you would assume that people posting wouldn't be doing the same analysis.
Your statements just don't bearsgrl out on the actual people that I know. So if you would like to base your analysis off of old data, go right ahead.
You base your analysis off anecdotes...
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First rule of trolling: never go full retard.
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I got this far before the toxic levels of stupid made vomit.BearsGrl wrote:This is where we differ. I don't think two is rare. I can see how you would think it is rare, but I just disagree with that philosophy.Ruxin1 wrote:lulz, tremendous troll is tremendous. It was an example for you to see how few SA's there are, not my bidding strategy.
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You regular posters need to stop trolling beargrl and go play frisbee or some shit.
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I don't think you know what the word 'statistics' means.BearsGrl wrote:Statistics are just a collection of anecdotes.
sta·tis·tics [stuh-tis-tiks]
noun
1.( used with a singular verb ) the science that deals with the collection, classification, analysis, and interpretation of numerical facts or data, and that, by use of mathematical theories of probability, imposes order and regularity on aggregates of more or less disparate elements.
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Or maybe this is the one you don't know -
an·ec·dote/ˈanikˌdōt/
Noun:
A short and amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person.
An account regarded as unreliable or hearsay.
an·ec·dote/ˈanikˌdōt/
Noun:
A short and amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person.
An account regarded as unreliable or hearsay.
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Seeing as I have collected survey results for an actual job, I think I know what statistics are.TyrionLannister wrote:I don't think you know what the word 'statistics' means.BearsGrl wrote:Statistics are just a collection of anecdotes.
sta·tis·tics [stuh-tis-tiks]
noun
1.( used with a singular verb ) the science that deals with the collection, classification, analysis, and interpretation of numerical facts or data, and that, by use of mathematical theories of probability, imposes order and regularity on aggregates of more or less disparate elements.
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Oh, she has done a survey folks. We can all go home now.BearsGrl wrote:Seeing as I have collected survey results for an actual job, I think I know what statistics are.
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Gotcha. Then 'anecdote' is the one you don't understand.BearsGrl wrote:Seeing as I have collected survey results for an actual job, I think I know what statistics are.TyrionLannister wrote:I don't think you know what the word 'statistics' means.BearsGrl wrote:Statistics are just a collection of anecdotes.
sta·tis·tics [stuh-tis-tiks]
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1.( used with a singular verb ) the science that deals with the collection, classification, analysis, and interpretation of numerical facts or data, and that, by use of mathematical theories of probability, imposes order and regularity on aggregates of more or less disparate elements.
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Good to end on a high note of reminding us that you don't know how the quote function works.BearsGrl wrote:
If you say so, Lud. If you say so.
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Never claimed perfection. That tends to happen when you are working on multiple projects at a time. I still wish you a good evening!Ludovico Technique wrote:Good to end on a high note of reminding us that you don't know how the quote function works.BearsGrl wrote:
If you say so, Lud. If you say so.
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BearsGrl wrote: You are also assuming that OP cares about long-term legal employment.
If anyone wants a tl;dr version of this thread, here at the two highlights.BearsGrl wrote:Statistics are just a collection of anecdotes.
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Someone that uses the r-word should always be taken at face value.tfleming09 wrote:BearsGrl wrote: You are also assuming that OP cares about long-term legal employment.If anyone wants a tl;dr version of this thread, here at the two highlights.BearsGrl wrote:Statistics are just a collection of anecdotes.
Out for realz.
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There is no way she is a real person...tfleming09 wrote:BearsGrl wrote: You are also assuming that OP cares about long-term legal employment.If anyone wants a tl;dr version of this thread, here at the two highlights.BearsGrl wrote:Statistics are just a collection of anecdotes.
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This took me a second but then I seriously lol'd.TyrionLannister wrote:
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Ludovico Technique wrote:This took me a second but then I seriously lol'd.
Always makes me so sad when she leaves. She really is the best troll ever.
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After reading through another BearsGrl catastrophe, this still seems relevant:
I hope beyond hope that she is a troll, because I don't want to live in a world with people who honestly believe the things she says. If OP is still reading, please see through the crazy and realize that neither school will provide much of a chance for gainful employment. Don't make your parents pay the debt-load for these options.bigeast03 wrote:Things I wish BearsGrl knew:
1.) Statistical evidence carries more weight than any anecdotal evidence.
2.) Anecdotal evidence will never disprove generalities, or as you so enjoy to say, "memes".
3.) Direct experience does not necessarily make you an expert on the subject. (e.g. living in Ca., OR visiting Stetson)
4.) Lack of direct experience does not mean you cannot know a substantial amount about a subject. (e.g. "People who don't live in Ca. can't tell me I'm wrong" OR "You can't know about a market if you haven't visited the area")
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OP needs to get on with his career. He has a life to live.
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Edit: Eh, nevermind. Just being a douche.
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