Could you point out which schools are misrepresented on LST?benburns214 wrote:My point from the beginning was not to put too much faith in the numbers that LST posts. There are certain statistics at certain schools that LST misrepresents (at no fault of their own). The legal market was much worse in 2007 than it is now, and some data on LST may reflect that (whether that data is accurate or not is questionable).Jaeger wrote:Ben, forgive my confusion, but you seem to say that the legal market was worse in 2007 (thereby making the case stronger for the aforementioned school) but then say the data is incorrect. How is it incorrect? And are you thus saying don't put stock in LST?
Boiled down... since some data on LST is misrepresented, its hard to know what data is accurate and what data isnt.
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NU and IIRC NYU have accounted for the data very rigorously. I think we're moving in the right direction.benburns214 wrote:My point from the beginning was not to put too much faith in the numbers that LST posts. There are certain statistics at certain schools that LST misrepresents (at no fault of their own). The legal market was much worse in 2007 than it is now, and some data on LST may reflect that (whether that data is accurate or not is questionable).Jaeger wrote:Ben, forgive my confusion, but you seem to say that the legal market was worse in 2007 (thereby making the case stronger for the aforementioned school) but then say the data is incorrect. How is it incorrect? And are you thus saying don't put stock in LST?
Boiled down... since some data on LST is misrepresented, its hard to know what data is accurate and what data isnt.
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Ah, easy mistake to make as well.InGoodFaith wrote:Solution: Just go to med school.
People forget that if you are in the bottom 25% of your class at med school... your just as fucked as being bottom 25% at any law school.
Those are the people practicing medicine in Puerto Rico. GREEN CARDS FOR EVERYONE!! lol
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Ben, I'm sorry man, but some of your posts ITT just show an alarming degree of misinformation and naivete.
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benburns214 wrote:Ah, easy mistake to make as well.InGoodFaith wrote:Solution: Just go to med school.
People forget that if you are in the bottom 25% of your class at med school... your just as fucked as being bottom 25% at any law school.
Those are the people practicing medicine in Puerto Rico. GREEN CARDS FOR EVERYONE!! lol
False. There is and has always been a shortage of doctors. If you do poorly on your boards, you may end up with an undesirable residency but that percentage is far less than fucked lawyers.
Also, why would you need a green card in Puerto Rico? It's part of the US...?
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Mr. Somebody wrote:I think people are less likely to respond to some independent agency, as opposed to the school they attended and have a relationship with.Jaeger wrote:benburns214 wrote: Well it is always a possibility that they will illegally misrepresent their data... however, there is nothing we can do about that. If the law schools misrepresent it, then the data will be misrepresented in every source we read, and thus we will never get correct data.
I think there should be an independent entity that surveys every student upon graduation and at 9 months (which they must reply to or face a fine or some such nonsense) so that we can finally have correct information. Why is that so hard?
My point was that reporting to this agency (ABA?) was mandatory. Thus alleviating all concerns.
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He's a trollololol.romothesavior wrote:Ben, I'm sorry man, but some of your posts ITT just show an alarming degree of misinformation and naivete.
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Shortage of Doctors... true. Percentage... true. I think the main difference here is that people dont go to Med school because "they dont know what else to do", mainly because prepping for the MCAT requires classes... and knowledge.Jaeger wrote:benburns214 wrote:Ah, easy mistake to make as well.InGoodFaith wrote:Solution: Just go to med school.
People forget that if you are in the bottom 25% of your class at med school... your just as fucked as being bottom 25% at any law school.
Those are the people practicing medicine in Puerto Rico. GREEN CARDS FOR EVERYONE!! lol
False. There is and has always been a shortage of doctors. If you do poorly on your boards, you may end up with an undesirable residency but that percentage is far less than fucked lawyers.
Also, why would you need a green card in Puerto Rico? It's part of the US...?
IMO, i think if going to law school required pre-requisite classes, there'd be a whole lot less people going to law school. And the market would level out.
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Wowromothesavior wrote:Ben, I'm sorry man, but some of your posts ITT just show an alarming degree of misinformation and naivete.
EDIT: pot calling the kettle black.
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benburns214 wrote:Shortage of Doctors... true. Percentage... true. I think the main difference here is that people dont go to Med school because "they dont know what else to do", mainly because prepping for the MCAT requires classes... and knowledge.Jaeger wrote:benburns214 wrote:Ah, easy mistake to make as well.InGoodFaith wrote:Solution: Just go to med school.
People forget that if you are in the bottom 25% of your class at med school... your just as fucked as being bottom 25% at any law school.
Those are the people practicing medicine in Puerto Rico. GREEN CARDS FOR EVERYONE!! lol
False. There is and has always been a shortage of doctors. If you do poorly on your boards, you may end up with an undesirable residency but that percentage is far less than fucked lawyers.
Also, why would you need a green card in Puerto Rico? It's part of the US...?
IMO, i think if going to law school required pre-requisite classes, there'd be a whole lot less people going to law school. And the market would level out.
But imagine how annoying as shit all your 1L classmates would be if they were all pre-law majors.
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Any comment that shows any shred of insight that isnt completely pessimistic is considered trolling apparently. Some people amaze meNelson wrote:He's a trollololol.romothesavior wrote:Ben, I'm sorry man, but some of your posts ITT just show an alarming degree of misinformation and naivete.
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Also, I don't think the notion of "class ranking" makes much sense in med school since it's pass/fail and your residency just is determined by boardsJaeger wrote:benburns214 wrote:Ah, easy mistake to make as well.InGoodFaith wrote:Solution: Just go to med school.
People forget that if you are in the bottom 25% of your class at med school... your just as fucked as being bottom 25% at any law school.
Those are the people practicing medicine in Puerto Rico. GREEN CARDS FOR EVERYONE!! lol
False. There is and has always been a shortage of doctors. If you do poorly on your boards, you may end up with an undesirable residency but that percentage is far less than fucked lawyers.
Also, why would you need a green card in Puerto Rico? It's part of the US...?
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Lol yes... thats true.Jaeger wrote: But imagine how annoying as shit all your 1L classmates would be if they were all pre-law majors.
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Excellent point... what I really meant was that if you do shitty in Med School, your still fucked.laxbrah420 wrote:Also, I don't think the notion of "class ranking" makes much sense in med school since it's pass/fail and your residency just is determined by boardsJaeger wrote:benburns214 wrote:Ah, easy mistake to make as well.InGoodFaith wrote:Solution: Just go to med school.
People forget that if you are in the bottom 25% of your class at med school... your just as fucked as being bottom 25% at any law school.
Those are the people practicing medicine in Puerto Rico. GREEN CARDS FOR EVERYONE!! lol
False. There is and has always been a shortage of doctors. If you do poorly on your boards, you may end up with an undesirable residency but that percentage is far less than fucked lawyers.
Also, why would you need a green card in Puerto Rico? It's part of the US...?
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No man, that's not what we mean. Your posts have just been out of touch and kind of absurd. Law school deans and professors would even take issue with your contention that law schools are a good source of employment data. Also, your earlier posts about the legal economy over the past few years and about the "bottom 25%" of medical schools being on par with the bottom 25% of law schools just shows me that you are naive and out of touch. You are arguing for things that just make no sense.benburns214 wrote:Any comment that shows any shred of insight that isnt completely pessimistic is considered trolling apparently. Some people amaze meNelson wrote:He's a trollololol.romothesavior wrote:Ben, I'm sorry man, but some of your posts ITT just show an alarming degree of misinformation and naivete.
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Your repeated conflation of the job placement of the class of 2009 with the economy in the year 2009 proves you're either trolling or an idiot.benburns214 wrote:Any comment that shows any shred of insight that isnt completely pessimistic is considered trolling apparently. Some people amaze meNelson wrote:He's a trollololol.romothesavior wrote:Ben, I'm sorry man, but some of your posts ITT just show an alarming degree of misinformation and naivete.
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I never said anything about job placement... but, I'd go with just being an idiot. Im sure you are sooooo much more informed than the multiple JD's and Judges I know personally and got most of my information from. Definitely...Nelson wrote:Your repeated conflation of the job placement of the class of 2009 with the economy in the year 2009 proves you're either trolling or an idiot.benburns214 wrote:Any comment that shows any shred of insight that isnt completely pessimistic is considered trolling apparently. Some people amaze meNelson wrote:He's a trollololol.romothesavior wrote:Ben, I'm sorry man, but some of your posts ITT just show an alarming degree of misinformation and naivete.
And romothesavior, whatever you say man. I honestly could not care less what you think... you obviously have your own oppinion (that is completely distorted) but i dont care. I was trying to inform other people, not you.
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That was an unnecessary ad hominem. But anyway I think that fact that he has so many posts shows he wants to fix misconceptions, like the ones ITT.benburns214 wrote: I never said anything about job placement... but, I'd go with just being an idiot. Im sure you are sooooo much more informed than the multiple JD's and Judges I know personally and got most of my information from. Definitely...
And romothesavior, whatever you say man. I honestly could not care less what you think... you obviously have your own oppinion (that is completely distorted) but i dont care. I was trying to inform other people, not you.
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Romo probably gives tons of fucks of what ben thinks of his interest in contributing to TLS--particularly since his poasts range over the course of three years.Jaeger wrote:EDIT: You've posted 13 Thousand times on here?!?!?! My god man... do something else.
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My edit was definitely an ad hominum... but it really wasnt part of my argument, just a shocking observation. loltop30man wrote:That was an unnecessary ad hominem. But anyway I think that fact that he has so many posts shows he wants to fix misconceptions, like the ones ITT.benburns214 wrote: I never said anything about job placement... but, I'd go with just being an idiot. Im sure you are sooooo much more informed than the multiple JD's and Judges I know personally and got most of my information from. Definitely...
And romothesavior, whatever you say man. I honestly could not care less what you think... you obviously have your own oppinion (that is completely distorted) but i dont care. I was trying to inform other people, not you.
Have a great day ladies!!!
EDIT: You've posted 13 Thousand times on here?!?!?! My god man... do something else.
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Burnsy you were sort of hangin in there until you fired off this gem.benburns214 wrote:Im sure you are sooooo much more informed than the multiple JD's and Judges I know personally and got most of my information from. Definitely...
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Probably... i can smell the tears welling up in his eyes from hereGuchster wrote:Jaeger wrote:Romo probably gives tons of fucks of what ben thinks of his interest in contributing to TLS--particularly since his poasts range over the course of three years.EDIT: You've posted 13 Thousand times on here?!?!?! My god man... do something else.
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They don't even try any more.Tiago Splitter wrote:Burnsy you were sort of hangin in there until you fired off this gem.benburns214 wrote:Im sure you are sooooo much more informed than the multiple JD's and Judges I know personally and got most of my information from. Definitely...
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I've been an intern for a judge at a court house for over a year... i didnt just pull that out of my ass lolTiago Splitter wrote:Burnsy you were sort of hangin in there until you fired off this gem.benburns214 wrote:Im sure you are sooooo much more informed than the multiple JD's and Judges I know personally and got most of my information from. Definitely...
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