GULC for Boston/West coast? Academia?

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GULC for Boston/West coast? Academia?

Postby jfb » Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:49 pm

Two topics here, feel free to weigh in on one or both:

I'm hoping to get a little insight on, I guess the portability of a GULC degree. Is it reasonable to attend GULC with intentions of working in Boston or heading west after graduation? I like DC a lot, but would like to have other options after attending school there.

Also, any thoughts on GULC for a career in academia after gaining some work experience?

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Re: GULC for Boston/West coast? Academia?

Postby Wholigan » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:10 pm

Academia is tough to crack no matter where you go, except maybe YLS. If you look at the raw numbers of profs from Georgetown, they don't seem to do horribly, but you have to remember GULC has very large classes. Raw numbers may also not take into account that GULC was considered more elite way back in the day when some of the really old profs may have gone there. This chart purports to adjust for that and includes only grads since 1995. Chi is the way to go if you can't get into HYS. But going to school to get into academia (tenured) is like planning your career around becoming ambassador to France. Might happen, but it's a pretty long shot.

http://leiterrankings.com/new/2011_LawTeachers.shtml

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Re: GULC for Boston/West coast? Academia?

Postby jfb » Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:21 pm

Wholigan wrote:Academia is tough to crack no matter where you go, except maybe YLS. If you look at the raw numbers of profs from Georgetown, they don't seem to do horribly, but you have to remember GULC has very large classes. Raw numbers may also not take into account that GULC was considered more elite way back in the day when some of the really old profs may have gone there. This chart purports to adjust for that and includes only grads since 1995. Chi is the way to go if you can't get into HYS. But going to school to get into academia (tenured) is like planning your career around becoming ambassador to France. Might happen, but it's a pretty long shot.

http://leiterrankings.com/new/2011_LawTeachers.shtml



Good info, thanks for that link.

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Re: GULC for Boston/West coast? Academia?

Postby predent/prelaw » Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:52 pm

Wholigan wrote:Academia is tough to crack no matter where you go, except maybe YLS. If you look at the raw numbers of profs from Georgetown, they don't seem to do horribly, but you have to remember GULC has very large classes. Raw numbers may also not take into account that GULC was considered more elite way back in the day when some of the really old profs may have gone there. This chart purports to adjust for that and includes only grads since 1995. Chi is the way to go if you can't get into HYS. But going to school to get into academia (tenured) is like planning your career around becoming ambassador to France. Might happen, but it's a pretty long shot.

http://leiterrankings.com/new/2011_LawTeachers.shtml



I don't understand how GULC had a "more elite" status back in the day if it was originally founded as an evening law school for government employees?

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Re: GULC for Boston/West coast? Academia?

Postby Wholigan » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:04 pm

predent/prelaw wrote:
Wholigan wrote:Academia is tough to crack no matter where you go, except maybe YLS. If you look at the raw numbers of profs from Georgetown, they don't seem to do horribly, but you have to remember GULC has very large classes. Raw numbers may also not take into account that GULC was considered more elite way back in the day when some of the really old profs may have gone there. This chart purports to adjust for that and includes only grads since 1995. Chi is the way to go if you can't get into HYS. But going to school to get into academia (tenured) is like planning your career around becoming ambassador to France. Might happen, but it's a pretty long shot.

http://leiterrankings.com/new/2011_LawTeachers.shtml



I don't understand how GULC had a "more elite" status back in the day if it was originally founded as an evening law school for government employees?


Come on, dude. I'm not talking about 140 years ago when they first started the school.

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Re: GULC for Boston/West coast? Academia?

Postby nealric » Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:47 pm

I graduated from GULC. I knew several people who were Boston bound. If you have ties to Boston it shouldn't be particularly hard to get a job there.

As for academia, as people said, that's tough out of almost any school. Pretty much need a clerkship.

Raw numbers may also not take into account that GULC was considered more elite way back in the day when some of the really old profs may have gone there.


I don't know where that idea comes from.

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Re: GULC for Boston/West coast? Academia?

Postby Pricer » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:42 am

nealric wrote:
Raw numbers may also not take into account that GULC was considered more elite way back in the day when some of the really old profs may have gone there.


I don't know where that idea comes from.


http://www.prelawhandbook.com/law_schoo ... _1987_1999

Looks like since the rankings came out, GULC has never been higher than 10, at least from 87 to 99. I know this is not exactly what the poster meant, but this is just something I found that might be relative.

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Re: GULC for Boston/West coast? Academia?

Postby KMaine » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:52 am

With connections to Boston and good grades (probably above median), I think you stand a good shot of getting to Boston.

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Re: GULC for Boston/West coast? Academia?

Postby Wholigan » Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:59 am

Pricer wrote:
nealric wrote:
Raw numbers may also not take into account that GULC was considered more elite way back in the day when some of the really old profs may have gone there.


I don't know where that idea comes from.


http://www.prelawhandbook.com/law_schoo ... _1987_1999

Looks like since the rankings came out, GULC has never been higher than 10, at least from 87 to 99. I know this is not exactly what the poster meant, but this is just something I found that might be relative.


Maybe I'm wrong on this. I don't have anything specific to point to, just thought I remembered hearing/reading that GULC used to be considered one of the top handful of schools before they did the rankings. I also can't find a comprehensive list right now, but I believe GULC has more total professors than most of the schools ranked immediately above, e.g. Cornell, Duke, NU, UVA, Penn. Maybe if I was wrong about the "eliteness" it's just a product of class sizes...




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