2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

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2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby Informative » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:22 am


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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby MrAnon » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:16 pm

NLJ250 =/= biglaw

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby showNprove » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:23 pm

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby columbia86 » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:28 pm

What placement rates are being prognosticated for 2014?

We knew that this year's placement rates, along with next year's, were going to be ridiculously low. Therefore while the Top 50 Go-To Law Schools provide us with a relative ranking of schools, I'm not sure how helpful the actual placement statistics are.

(Given that the worst of the economic recession has passed and reportedly job prospects are SLOWLY improving)

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby showNprove » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:28 pm

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby fatduck » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:31 pm

Why did you make another thread for this?

Aren't you busy looking at resumes, Mr. Biglaw Hiring Director? Or wait I mean 0L? Which was it, again?

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby TheFactor » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:16 pm

Definitely not similar to previous years btw

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby TheFactor » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:17 pm

fatduck wrote:Why did you make another thread for this?

Aren't you busy looking at resumes, Mr. Biglaw Hiring Director? Or wait I mean 0L? Which was it, again?

lol

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby dood » Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:43 pm

fatduck wrote:Why did you make another thread for this?

Aren't you busy looking at resumes, Mr. Biglaw Hiring Director? Or wait I mean 0L? Which was it, again?


hahahahaha i just read through that whole thread.

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby fatduck » Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:55 pm

dood wrote:
fatduck wrote:Why did you make another thread for this?

Aren't you busy looking at resumes, Mr. Biglaw Hiring Director? Or wait I mean 0L? Which was it, again?


hahahahaha i just read through that whole thread.


it was even better before he edited his post. originally he said he was a hiring partner so we should all listen to him. he edited it out once someone pointed out he was a 1L.

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby ImpatientlyWaiting » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:02 pm

These rankings are utterly useless without knowing about clerkship and public interest placement. I really don't understand why everyone makes such a big deal out of it.

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby FiveSermon » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:04 pm

Utterly useless? Right...

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby flcath » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:04 pm

MrAnon wrote:NLJ250 =/= biglaw

Except for the most part it is, particularly if we're talking about # of attorney (vice # of firms).

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby FiveSermon » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:06 pm

We all know the only reason Informative posted this was to point out that BC had a 3% higher placement than BU.

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby PomasThynchon » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:14 pm

FiveSermon wrote:We all know the only reason Informative posted this was to point out that BC had a 3% higher placement than BU.


So what are you Informative? A 1L? Or BigLaw associate? Or hiring director? Only one explanation--Informative is...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Hume

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby Hannibal » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:14 pm

Wtf Cornell?

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby FiveSermon » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:17 pm

Hannibal wrote:Wtf Cornell?


This was my first reaction as well.

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby fatduck » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:17 pm

HYSCCC

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby FiveSermon » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:19 pm

fatduck wrote:HYSCCC


NYU is now a TTT

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby ImpatientlyWaiting » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:19 pm

FiveSermon wrote:Utterly useless? Right...


Yes. If it's going to suggest that Yale gives you the 15th-best shot at BigLaw, and that Cornell gives you a better shot than 12 of the other T14, then it is completely and utterly useless without proper context. The rankings just don't have practical value if you don't know about the self-selection biases of each school.

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby fatduck » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:20 pm

New York UniversiTTTy

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby FiveSermon » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:21 pm

ImpatientlyWaiting wrote:
FiveSermon wrote:Utterly useless? Right...


Yes. If it's going to suggest that Yale gives you the 15th-best shot at BigLaw, and that Cornell gives you a better shot than 12 of the other T14, then it is completely and utterly useless without proper context. The rankings just don't have practical value if you don't know about the self-selection biases of each school.


People know the context. Everyone knows students from schools like Yale and Stanford can do whatever they want. Who the hell even looks at NLJ250 if they get admitted to Yale? If you can't get biglaw from Yale you were probably bottom 1% with bad interview skills.

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby lisjjen » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:24 pm

FiveSermon wrote:
ImpatientlyWaiting wrote:
FiveSermon wrote:Utterly useless? Right...


Yes. If it's going to suggest that Yale gives you the 15th-best shot at BigLaw, and that Cornell gives you a better shot than 12 of the other T14, then it is completely and utterly useless without proper context. The rankings just don't have practical value if you don't know about the self-selection biases of each school.


People know the context. Everyone knows students from schools like Yale and Stanford can do whatever they want. Who the hell even looks at NLJ250 if they get admitted to Yale? If you can't get biglaw from Yale you were probably bottom 1% with bad interview skills.


That's one theory.

I know that I started thinking about other career options today.

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby bball25 » Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:37 pm

I was only able to see 1-10. Anyone know what 11-25 looked like?

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Re: 2011 NLJ BigLaw Placement Rankings

Postby Kswizzie » Sun Feb 27, 2011 4:48 pm

FiveSermon wrote:
ImpatientlyWaiting wrote:
FiveSermon wrote:Utterly useless? Right...


Yes. If it's going to suggest that Yale gives you the 15th-best shot at BigLaw, and that Cornell gives you a better shot than 12 of the other T14, then it is completely and utterly useless without proper context. The rankings just don't have practical value if you don't know about the self-selection biases of each school.


People know the context. Everyone knows students from schools like Yale and Stanford can do whatever they want. Who the hell even looks at NLJ250 if they get admitted to Yale? If you can't get biglaw from Yale you were probably bottom 1% with bad interview skills.


Even factoring in such biases Cornell absolutely crushed like a mother F... I wouldn't say that its better than 12 of the T14 but we can probably say (given historical clerkship, gov't, PI placement) that 2/3rds of that graduating class walked away with the kind of jobs available to only the very top students at schools outside the T30 or so...

That's pretty freakin good if you can be a well-below average student at a school and still land a nice job




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