2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby bdubs » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:42 pm

buckilaw wrote:
jdfrisby wrote:Someone in admissions at Illinois told me they were looking at a 168 median. Don't know if they'll get quite that high but they might go up, though BigLaw in Chicago still hurts them


I can't see Illinois sustaining medians on par with UCLA, UT, and Cornell when the job prospects from Illinois are so much worse than the aforementioned schools. But crazier things have happened.


You guys realize that this year's USNWR rankings are based on last years medians, right? Nothing about this cycle will influence rankings until next year.

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Postby beachbum » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:50 pm

bdubs wrote:
buckilaw wrote:
jdfrisby wrote:Someone in admissions at Illinois told me they were looking at a 168 median. Don't know if they'll get quite that high but they might go up, though BigLaw in Chicago still hurts them


I can't see Illinois sustaining medians on par with UCLA, UT, and Cornell when the job prospects from Illinois are so much worse than the aforementioned schools. But crazier things have happened.


You guys realize that this year's USNWR rankings are based on last years medians, right? Nothing about this cycle will influence rankings until next year.


Also all of these schools will report 100% employment and median starting salaries of $160k. US News =/= reality.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby 99.9luft » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:51 pm

what are the exact criteria of rankings besides employment? class size? tuition?

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Postby paulinaporizkova » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:52 pm

blatant anti-michigan trolling all up in this thread

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby rman1201 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:54 pm

99.9luft wrote:what are the exact criteria of rankings besides employment? class size? tuition?


http://www.usnews.com/education/articles/2010/04/15/the-law-school-rankings-methodology

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby 99.9luft » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:04 pm

rman1201 wrote:
99.9luft wrote:what are the exact criteria of rankings besides employment? class size? tuition?


http://www.usnews.com/education/articles/2010/04/15/the-law-school-rankings-methodology


thanks, mang!

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby lawgrl21 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:05 pm

bdubs wrote:
buckilaw wrote:
jdfrisby wrote:Someone in admissions at Illinois told me they were looking at a 168 median. Don't know if they'll get quite that high but they might go up, though BigLaw in Chicago still hurts them


I can't see Illinois sustaining medians on par with UCLA, UT, and Cornell when the job prospects from Illinois are so much worse than the aforementioned schools. But crazier things have happened.


You guys realize that this year's USNWR rankings are based on last years medians, right? Nothing about this cycle will influence rankings until next year.


does this mean that Villanova's 2012 rank won't be influenced by the scandal?
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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby bdubs » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:08 pm

lawgrl21 wrote:
bdubs wrote:
buckilaw wrote:
jdfrisby wrote:Someone in admissions at Illinois told me they were looking at a 168 median. Don't know if they'll get quite that high but they might go up, though BigLaw in Chicago still hurts them


I can't see Illinois sustaining medians on par with UCLA, UT, and Cornell when the job prospects from Illinois are so much worse than the aforementioned schools. But crazier things have happened.


You guys realize that this year's USNWR rankings are based on last years medians, right? Nothing about this cycle will influence rankings until next year.


does this mean that Villanova's 2011 rank won't be influenced by the scandal?


Villanova will submit more accurate data about last year's outcomes than they have in the past, so it will probably go down in the rankings.

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Postby lawyerwannabe » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:15 pm

1) Yale
2) Harvard
3) Stanford
4) Columbia
5) NYU
6) Chicago
7) Penn
8) Berkeley
9) Michigan/Virginia/Duke
12) Northwestern
13) Cornell
14) Georgetown

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Postby justifytheparadox » Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:54 pm

1. Yale
2. Harvard
3. Stanford
4. Columbia/NYU
6. Chicago
7. Penn
8. Berkeley
9. Mich/UVA
11. Duke
12. Cornell/NW
14. Gtown/UCLA

This would represent some pretty crazy changes, but we'll see. I think NYU and Cornell are both due for a good bump due to good LSAT numbers last year.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby tea_drinker » Mon Feb 28, 2011 6:26 pm

paulinaporizkova wrote:blatant anti-michigan trolling all up in this thread

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby jdemmitt » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:53 pm

We need someone to get their hack on and get us the info!

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby amers73 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 7:59 pm

jdemmitt wrote:We need someone to get their hack on and get us the info!


Seriously.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby Hannibal » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:01 pm

jdemmitt wrote:We need someone to get their hack on and get us the info!


Committing a felony for what will probably be a meaningless update is not TCR

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby SrLaw » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:06 pm

TyrodTaylor wrote:i say UVA moves up and W&L drops out of T40. Indiana needs to drop


It is amazing how much W&L Law has tanked over the last few years. Their NLJP numbers look just plan ugly.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby Top14Hope » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:06 pm

Hannibal wrote:
jdemmitt wrote:We need someone to get their hack on and get us the info!


Committing a felony for what will probably be a meaningless update is not TCR


Meaningless? I think you mean priceless.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby fakemoney » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:23 pm

The rankings will probably get leaked before March 15th... Could happen any day really

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Postby Cupidity » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:25 pm

I predict BU back to 20, cut their 1L class by 30 for construction.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby crossingforHYS » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:30 pm

everyone seems to place vandy higher then 17...why is that?

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby FuManChusco » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:33 pm

crossingforHYS wrote:everyone seems to place vandy higher then 17...why is that?


Biglaw placement

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby nickwar » Mon Feb 28, 2011 8:38 pm

I want to see UGA move up, or at least stay at 28.


Seconded.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby Pricer » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:18 pm

nickwar wrote:
I want to see UGA move up, or at least stay at 28.


Seconded.


The new NLJ250 figures show GA State placing higher than UGA. I still think UGA would get me a better job.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby dr123 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:22 pm

US news rankings are vitually meaningless

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby amers73 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:40 pm

SrLaw wrote:
TyrodTaylor wrote:i say UVA moves up and W&L drops out of T40. Indiana needs to drop


It is amazing how much W&L Law has tanked over the last few years. Their NLJP numbers look just plan ugly.


Why is that? I guess I don't really understand. There are a few schools 27-40 who didn't even make the NLJ 250 rankings yet nobody is predicting a large drop in their rankings.

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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)

Postby pattonthicke » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:52 pm

1.yale
1.Harvard
1..Standford
4.Columbia
5.NYU
6.Chicago
7.Duke
8.Cornell
9.Penn
10.Northwestern
11.Berkeley (where it belongs)
12. UVA
13. Michigan
14. Gtown




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