I want you to think for a second about why that doesn't matter.stratocophic wrote:WUSTL has more a larger student body than all 4 of the other schools, and there are a finite number of fed and Art III clerkships to go around. You do the math.aschup wrote:LOL, "trending":
"Percent employed in all judicial clerkships"
Notre Dame: 15.1%
Boston College: 8.2%
Indiana: 7.5%
Illinois: 6.7%
WUSTL: 4.0%
"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
Notre Dame: 7.6%
Indiana: 4.7%
Boston College: 4.3%
Illinois: 4.2%
WUSTL: 3.0%
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Apparently Davis just submitted a photo of SBL's face in lieu of employment data.General Tso wrote:What is up with Davis and others' missing data?rman1201 wrote:Its not looking good for Emory...
Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)
#23 University of California--Davis
#23 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
#23 University of Notre Dame 83.80% 93.40%
#27 Boston College 79.20% 94.30%
#27 College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe) 84.30% 93.70%
#27 University of Iowa
#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%
#30 Fordham University 79.40% 91.50%
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Shit, I gotta start my DUKE transfer app.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLstratocophic wrote:WUSTL has more a larger student body than all 4 of the other schools, and there are a finite number of fed and Art III clerkships to go around. You do the math.aschup wrote:LOL, "trending":
"Percent employed in all judicial clerkships"
Notre Dame: 15.1%
Boston College: 8.2%
Indiana: 7.5%
Illinois: 6.7%
WUSTL: 4.0%
"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
Notre Dame: 7.6%
Indiana: 4.7%
Boston College: 4.3%
Illinois: 4.2%
WUSTL: 3.0%
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ah okay...can you fill in when you get time?rman1201 wrote:This is from a spreadsheet I started making, just with schools I care about atmGeneral Tso wrote:What is up with Davis and others' missing data?rman1201 wrote:Its not looking good for Emory...
Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)
#23 University of California--Davis
#23 University of Illinois--Urbana-Champaign
#23 University of Notre Dame 83.80% 93.40%
#27 Boston College 79.20% 94.30%
#27 College of William and Mary (Marshall-Wythe) 84.30% 93.70%
#27 University of Iowa
#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%
#30 Fordham University 79.40% 91.50%
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'08JusticeHarlan wrote:Is that data for class of '09?aschup wrote: "Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
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Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
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Meaning if you weren't employed at graduation you are fucked even more than you would be at other schools.rman1201 wrote:Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
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Even a part time mc donalds job counts. That category is fucking useless.rman1201 wrote:Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
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Ah, thanks.aschup wrote:'08JusticeHarlan wrote:Is that data for class of '09?aschup wrote: "Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
So for those with the premium (tm) subscriptions, were there '09 clerking data?
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All the stats are manipulatable, except basically the GPA/LSAT. US News is a crock of shit.rman1201 wrote:Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
For the sheer lol factor, anyone notice Vanillanova's rank?
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84, drop of 17Blindmelon wrote:For the sheer lol factor, anyone notice Vanillanova's rank?
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No. The 09 data is VERY limited.JusticeHarlan wrote:Ah, thanks.aschup wrote:'08JusticeHarlan wrote:Is that data for class of '09?aschup wrote: "Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
So for those with the premium (tm) subscriptions, were there '09 clerking data?
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Why, praytell, would judges hire more WUSTLers just because HORDES of unemployed WUSTL grads descend upon them? I don't think more WUSTLers are going to get more (numerically, not percentage-wise) clerkships from grads of other schools just because WUSTL has 5 or 6 more people in the top 10%. WUSTL used to be much smaller - the number of grads isn't proportional to the number of alumni out there. I'm not trolling for the school, I'm just telling you that I don't think that it's solely because of the TTT effect.aschup wrote:LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLstratocophic wrote:WUSTL has more a larger student body than all 4 of the other schools, and there are a finite number of fed and Art III clerkships to go around. You do the math.aschup wrote:LOL, "trending":
"Percent employed in all judicial clerkships"
Notre Dame: 15.1%
Boston College: 8.2%
Indiana: 7.5%
Illinois: 6.7%
WUSTL: 4.0%
"Percent employed in a judicial clerkship by an Article III federal judge"
Notre Dame: 7.6%
Indiana: 4.7%
Boston College: 4.3%
Illinois: 4.2%
WUSTL: 3.0%
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dude I knew they were doing that shit. last year they claimed 98% at graduation when that was really their 9 month rate. first, what are the odds that a mediocre school like Davis can place THAT well (~20% better than their 2003-2007 placement rates) in this bad economy? second, what are odds that the exact same set of students that are employed at graduation are the same set that is employed 9 mos. out?rman1201 wrote:Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
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true, unless you go to Emory, in which case you should immediately drop out, retake, and reapply.Desert Fox wrote:Even a part time mc donalds job counts. That category is fucking useless.rman1201 wrote:Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
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Elitism AlertGeneral Tso wrote:mediocre schoolrman1201 wrote:Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
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Re: 2012 U.S. News Rankings (March 15th... It's official)
18-40 is pretty fungible. Each year there will be "upsets" but really, same shit, different year.Hannibal wrote:Elitism AlertGeneral Tso wrote:mediocre schoolrman1201 wrote:Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
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Hey man we can't all be BIGTENDERLOINLAW secure like Hastings grads.Hannibal wrote:Elitism AlertGeneral Tso wrote:mediocre schoolrman1201 wrote:Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
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65% is pretty damn bad.eddieg803 wrote:this is the part where i seriously consider transferring back home to state school. am i really paying $40k/yr for 65% employment rate? and i love how all year the deans have been talking about how great things are looking, how emory is a mover & a shaker, blah blah blah. but i mean come on... 65%...rman1201 wrote:Its not looking good for Emory...
Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)
#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%
It s so bad out there that they couldn't pull any "magic tricks" to boost up their numbers.
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It's good enough for USNews, but TLS poster General Tso has a hunch. The same hunch he gets every year when his school gets beat in a relatively meaningless ranking game. I guess this closes the book on that mystery.General Tso wrote:dude I knew they were doing that shit. last year they claimed 98% at graduation when that was really their 9 month rate. first, what are the odds that a mediocre school like Davis can place THAT well (~20% better than their 2003-2007 placement rates) in this bad economy? second, what are odds that the exact same set of students that are employed at graduation are the same set that is employed 9 mos. out?rman1201 wrote:Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
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It's probably bullshit, but then again all schools are.SBL wrote:It's good enough for USNews, but TLS poster General Tso has a hunch. The same hunch he gets every year when his school gets beat in a relatively meaningless ranking game. I guess this closes the book on that mystery.General Tso wrote:dude I knew they were doing that shit. last year they claimed 98% at graduation when that was really their 9 month rate. first, what are the odds that a mediocre school like Davis can place THAT well (~20% better than their 2003-2007 placement rates) in this bad economy? second, what are odds that the exact same set of students that are employed at graduation are the same set that is employed 9 mos. out?rman1201 wrote:Davis is 95.8% at graduation and 95.8% 9 months out. It outperformed its rank pretty well in that aspect.
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+1 Honestly, someone was asleep at the wheel at that school.thexfactor wrote:65% is pretty damn bad.eddieg803 wrote:this is the part where i seriously consider transferring back home to state school. am i really paying $40k/yr for 65% employment rate? and i love how all year the deans have been talking about how great things are looking, how emory is a mover & a shaker, blah blah blah. but i mean come on... 65%...rman1201 wrote:Its not looking good for Emory...
Rank School % Employed at Graduation (c/o 09) % Employed at 9 months (c/o 09)
#30 Emory University 65.10% 87.10%
It s so bad out there that they couldn't pull any "magic tricks" to boost up their numbers.
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I vote we keep calling it the T14 since I got into Texas.
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