0LNewbie wrote:romothesavior wrote:
I'm only a 1L, so I don't know anything for certain. From what I can gather (and these are general, rough estimates), top 20-25% will probably get you some interviews, but you are far from safe. Top 1/3 might even do it if you have good WE or connections, and I've heard of people down to median getting NLJ 250 jobs (but they are a rare, rare exception).
I'd say anything outside top 10-15% is going to mean you have to interview really well to get a job out of OCI. ITE has made it so that few people at a school like WUSTL are "safe." But if you're top 20%, you'll be in a good place to get interviews and hopefully give yourself a real shot at an NLJ 250 job.
This is kind of terrifying. I thought the percentage was much higher. I very much want to get biglaw in either STL, KC or Chicago, and you're saying outside of top 10-15%, there's not a good chance of that? Just a chance?
I have to agree with Romo as far as the class of 2011 and 2012 go. As far as our class, we simply don't know...it's going to be better probably, but no one knows how much better. Your class, the class of 2014 will be significantly better.
In good times, the top third at WUSTL had a
very good chance at biglaw somewhere, and above median with good experience gave you a decent shot. During this recession, I'd say you need top 20% or so. There's really no debate as to whether that's going to get better, but nobody really knows how much better.
WUSTL has a great career services office that works with you to find jobs outside of OCI, and they have decent connections to midwestern Midlaw. Furthermore, they do job fairs around the country to help students connect with employers in their home regions. I'm not denying its struggles to get people into biglaw ITE, but saying that it's a strictly regional school, or that you have to be top 10% to get a Cali or NY job is nonsense. Maybe top 10% if you want to go to one of these places with no ties to the region, but that's true for pretty much every school. Unless you're graduating from Harvard, trying to get a job in NYC or California without ties to the region is going to be difficult unless your grades are very good. Firms simply think you're going to take off after a year or two if you have no family ties to make you want to stay, no matter what school you went to.
Also, if you have concerns about regionality, you can easily look up the firms that do OCI here on the NALP directory. We have firms from all over the country. WUSTL's "regionality" is way overstated on here. You need at least top third to get interviews at these firms, but they're not coming here to interview for nothing. We have about 10% of our class coming from California each year...that means there's about 27 California students. And even in this recession, we've had over 10 California firms come out. If California students disperse equally among the general student population, 9 of them will be in the top third. So you have 10 CA firms and you're competing for jobs with 9 other Cali students in the top third. Not all firms that come out hire someone, but you're going to get a chance at an interview.