Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

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sojuteacher
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Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby sojuteacher » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:32 am

and Chicago number 1?

Malcolm Gladwell's ranking system has some interesting results. He uses value vs. LSAT vs. faculty publishing. Better than US News system?

http://www.abajournal.com/weekly/articl ... ekly_email

Here are the ranks:

1) Chicago

2) BYU

3) Harvard

4) Yale

5) Texas

6) Virginia

7) Colorado

8 Alabama

9) Stanford

10) Pennsylvania

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby HBK » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:34 am

Base it on jobs instead of bullshit and we can talk.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby twert » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:40 am

faculty publishing is the biggest load of shit.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby Pricer » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:49 am

Plus you can't weigh the LSAT as 40% and not consider GPA.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby dissonance1848 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:51 am

Agree with above, total bullshit. The only thing that matters is prestige whoring and job placement. We're talking about fucking professional schools, not the life of the mind.
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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby fatduck » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:51 am

i think there should be one giant law school for the entire country.

boom. no more rankings.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby Grizz » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:54 am

twert wrote:faculty publishing is the biggest load of shit.


This. Barely anyone reads their articles except other profs. It's intellectual masturbation at its finest.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby NU_Jet55 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:57 am

I guess BYU is better than Cooley...

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby World B. Free » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:00 am

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby bk1 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:03 am

Yes.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby Pricer » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:05 am

The point is that all rankings are shit, but some people actually pay attention to the USNWR rankings, which is the only ranking system that does correlate (loosely, and very loosely after T18) to hiring practices.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby imbored25 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:40 am

fatduck wrote:i think there should be one giant law school for the entire country.

boom. no more rankings.


+1

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby Bildungsroman » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:44 am

Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby folkitup123 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:59 am

Outliers on CD during long car rides = F**king Fantastic

Malcolm Gladwell's Law School Rankings = Meh.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby paulinaporizkova » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:01 am

short answer: no
long answer: noooooooooooooooooooooo

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby dr123 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:02 am

sure why not, its not like the rankings mean anything anyways

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby OGR3 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:13 am

Bildungsroman wrote:Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.


This.

Here's my ranking system:
Rank based on *real* employment statistics and bar passage rates, LSAT and GPA can be thrown in there too, but stuff like library size and acceptance rate are too easily gamed.

Top 20 schools are ranked as national schools
What is now 21- ~125 would be regionally ranked
All other schools would be demolished or turned into campus food courts

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby 0L Hoping for 1 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:16 am

Should BYU be ranked number 2? No

Should Chicago be ranked number 1? YES! 8)

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby sojuteacher » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:28 am

as a Utah boy going to UChi next year, I admit I love these rankings.

All that ranking is bullshit talk aside, its pretty interesting that BYU gets No. 2 with its 164 LSAT median when the LSAT is weighted at 40%. Faculty publishing and value have to be huge for the school to get that high.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby ArchRoark » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:35 am

No

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EDIT: Apparently my post constituted trolling. :oops: I didn't realize this was such a serious thread.
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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby casterfield » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:36 am

Bildungsroman wrote:Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.


I don't think he proposes any rankings system. I thought that this was his point in the article.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby Pricer » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:06 am

casterfield wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.


I don't think he proposes any rankings system. I thought that this was his point in the article.


The point of the article was for him to make some ludicrous claim (BYU as #2) to get publicity.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby Bildungsroman » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:08 am

casterfield wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.


I don't think he proposes any rankings system. I thought that this was his point in the article.


idk, I don't have a New Yorker subscription so I couldn't read the whole thing.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby JG Hall » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:22 am

I guess we'll know come the rapture.

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Re: Should BYU Law be ranked No. 2?

Postby Hey-O » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:25 am

OGR3 wrote:
Bildungsroman wrote:Malcolm Gladwell is ludicrously overrated and the rankings system he proposes is terrible.


This.

Here's my ranking system:
Rank based on *real* employment statistics and bar passage rates, LSAT and GPA can be thrown in there too, but stuff like library size and acceptance rate are too easily gamed.

Top 20 schools are ranked as national schools
What is now 21- ~125 would be regionally ranked
All other schools would be demolished or turned into campus food courts


+1 Nice. I would support this plan.




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