WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

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Which one?

Duke (sticker)
24
20%
Michigan (sticker)
60
49%
WUSTL + full scholly
39
32%
 
Total votes: 123

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WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Verity » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:21 pm

Assuming a goal of Biglaw in Chicago, NYC, DC, Philly.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Aberzombie1892 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:28 pm

Verity wrote:Assuming a goal of Biglaw in Chicago, NYC, DC, Philly.


For your goal, Michigan.

Logically, WashU.

.......

?????


WashU wins!

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby showNprove » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:31 pm

Michigan. Even if your goal was St. Louis biglaw, you may still want to take Michigan.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Verity » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:45 pm

Does WUSTL place well on the east coast?

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Postby TheThreader » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:52 pm

interested in this...but im thinking for biglaw in TX and maybe CA

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby MrPapagiorgio » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:56 pm

If you want Biglaw, I would say Michigan would give you the best opportunity to do so. As tempting as WUSTL at full scholly is, I can't see either WUSTL or Duke giving you a better opportunity at Biglaw than Michigan.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby beachbum » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:07 pm

Verity wrote:Does WUSTL place well on the east coast?


Yes, if you're at the top of your class. They've been improving their connections to NYC, and they've recently started gunning for the DC market. But if your goal is BigLaw, WUSTL is going to lag significantly behind both Duke and Michigan. I say go to whichever of those two suits you better.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Reedie » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:11 pm

See what you can get out of Duke and Michigan (peer schools). Then visit all three. Remember that Michigan sends more grads to Chicago than Duke. Three excellent options, enjoy, and pay no attention to what anyone here says.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Grizz » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:24 pm

Somewhere in this middle, hopefully with money?

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Postby showNprove » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:36 pm

Reedie wrote:See what you can get out of Duke and Michigan (peer schools). Then visit all three. Remember that Michigan sends more grads to Chicago than Duke. Three excellent options, enjoy, and pay no attention to what anyone here says.

Are you saying Michigan and Duke are peer schools with WUSTL? Michigan and Duke won't even entertain the idea of giving OP money just because WUSTL is offering a full ride.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Reedie » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:39 pm

showNprove wrote:
Reedie wrote:See what you can get out of Duke and Michigan (peer schools). Then visit all three. Remember that Michigan sends more grads to Chicago than Duke. Three excellent options, enjoy, and pay no attention to what anyone here says.

Are you saying Michigan and Duke are peer schools with WUSTL? Michigan and Duke won't even entertain the idea of giving OP money just because WUSTL is offering a full ride.


No, I'm saying Michigan and Duke are peer schools with one another. Whether they will try to offer some money due to WUSTL scholarship, I don't know.

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Postby Verity » Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:26 pm

Reedie wrote:
showNprove wrote:
Reedie wrote:See what you can get out of Duke and Michigan (peer schools). Then visit all three. Remember that Michigan sends more grads to Chicago than Duke. Three excellent options, enjoy, and pay no attention to what anyone here says.

Are you saying Michigan and Duke are peer schools with WUSTL? Michigan and Duke won't even entertain the idea of giving OP money just because WUSTL is offering a full ride.


No, I'm saying Michigan and Duke are peer schools with one another. Whether they will try to offer some money due to WUSTL scholarship, I don't know.


Well you're in at Duke and WUSTL + $108K scholly. Want to be a guinea pig?

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Blindmelon » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:17 pm

Verity wrote:Does WUSTL place well on the east coast?


No.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby northwood » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:18 pm

WUSTL is a midwestern school.

if you want east- then Michigan or Duke

Figure out what it is you want, then find out which school is the best to get you to your goals

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Muenchen » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:26 pm

Blindmelon wrote:
Verity wrote:Does WUSTL place well on the east coast?


No.


I'm not a WUSTL whore, but this is not credited.

34% of WUSTL grads go to New England, the Mid-Atlantic, or the South Atlantic (not sure which one encompasses DC). Obviously a school is always going to place best in the adjacent surrounding area, but beware of blatant anti-WUSTL trolling which is rampant.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby FlightoftheEarls » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:27 pm

Verity wrote:Assuming a goal of Biglaw in Chicago, NYC, DC, Philly.

It's amazing that WUSTL is tied in the voting with either of the other two schools assuming OP's only stated goal is biglaw in these four specific markets, none of which WUSTL is particularly competitive in for biglaw.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Blindmelon » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:31 pm

Muenchen wrote:
Blindmelon wrote:
Verity wrote:Does WUSTL place well on the east coast?


No.


I'm not a WUSTL whore, but this is not credited.

34% of WUSTL grads go to New England, the Mid-Atlantic, or the South Atlantic (not sure which one encompasses DC). Obviously a school is always going to place best in the adjacent surrounding area, but beware of blatant anti-WUSTL trolling which is rampant.


Placing 34% doesn't mean much when you have no idea what they're doing in that region. WUSTL isn't a bad school by any means, but median isn't exactly knocking down Boston's door.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby quadsixm » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:35 pm

WUSTL.

Everybody's "goal" is "biglaw on the east coast." The odds of one doing well enough to reach that goal, at any school except for YHS, make paying sticker a huge risk. Especially when you've got a full ride sitting on the table.

Is the slightly better chance of getting biglaw over WUSTL really worth that much to you?

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Postby Bumi » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:36 pm

Muenchen wrote:34% of WUSTL grads go to New England, the Mid-Atlantic, or the South Atlantic (not sure which one encompasses DC).


Definitely New England.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Muenchen » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:36 pm

Blindmelon wrote:
Muenchen wrote:
Blindmelon wrote:
Verity wrote:Does WUSTL place well on the east coast?


No.


I'm not a WUSTL whore, but this is not credited.

34% of WUSTL grads go to New England, the Mid-Atlantic, or the South Atlantic (not sure which one encompasses DC). Obviously a school is always going to place best in the adjacent surrounding area, but beware of blatant anti-WUSTL trolling which is rampant.


Placing 34% doesn't mean much when you have no idea what they're doing in that region. WUSTL isn't a bad school by any means, but median isn't exactly knocking down Boston's door.


But simply saying saying no is such an oversimplification. OP should also always take placement stats with a grain of salt because of the self-selection of people school schools. People who choose WUSTL are usually people who don't want to work in Boston anyway, and vice versa with people who choose BU/BC.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Blindmelon » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:39 pm

Exactly. Then why choose WUSTL? Given the top of the class does extremely well (even in DC actually), what does the median student who doesn't want to work in the Midwest do?

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby Kiersten1985 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:40 pm

I had luck negotiating for money with Michigan. Definitely give it a try, especially since you have such a huge offer from a decent school.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby NU_Jet55 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:40 pm

quadsixm wrote:WUSTL.

Everybody's "goal" is "biglaw on the east coast." The odds of one doing well enough to reach that goal, at any school except for YHS, make paying sticker a huge risk. Especially when you've got a full ride sitting on the table.

Is the slightly better chance of getting biglaw over WUSTL really worth that much to you?


This is the best advice you can get OP.

While everybody at Duke and Michigan are killing each other to try to get one of those coveted spots so they can MAYBE pay it off after working themselves to death over the next 10 years, you can rest assured that you won't need a biglaw job to pay off your loans.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby beachbum » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:52 pm

NU_Jet55 wrote:
quadsixm wrote:WUSTL.

Everybody's "goal" is "biglaw on the east coast." The odds of one doing well enough to reach that goal, at any school except for YHS, make paying sticker a huge risk. Especially when you've got a full ride sitting on the table.

Is the slightly better chance of getting biglaw over WUSTL really worth that much to you?


This is the best advice you can get OP.

While everybody at Duke and Michigan are killing each other to try to get one of those coveted spots so they can MAYBE pay it off after working themselves to death over the next 10 years, you can rest assured that you won't need a biglaw job to pay off your loans.


But for the OP's stated goals, WUSTL definitely isn't a better choice than Duke/Michigan.

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Re: WUSTL + full scholly vs. Michigan vs. Duke, both sticker

Postby FlightoftheEarls » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:55 pm

NU_Jet55 wrote:
quadsixm wrote:WUSTL.

Everybody's "goal" is "biglaw on the east coast." The odds of one doing well enough to reach that goal, at any school except for YHS, make paying sticker a huge risk. Especially when you've got a full ride sitting on the table.

Is the slightly better chance of getting biglaw over WUSTL really worth that much to you?


This is the best advice you can get OP.

While everybody at Duke and Michigan are killing each other to try to get one of those coveted spots so they can MAYBE pay it off after working themselves to death over the next 10 years, you can rest assured that you won't need a biglaw job to pay off your loans.

This is just stupid; you're fighting the hypothetical.

OP asked: "Where would you go for biglaw in these four markets?"
Your response: Oh, OP, don't even worry! Go to WUSTL so you don't have to worry about biglaw!

If we're sticking with this line of thought, here's my recommendation: OP, go to University of New Mexico School of Law. It dominates its market, the COA is going to be much lower, and the scenery is beautiful. This is the best advice you can possibly get.

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