probably a no-brainer...

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probably a no-brainer...

Postby santisuk » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:56 pm

Okay, I'm just super debt-averse, hence the wavering on what would normally be a no-brainer, I think. So I'm mainly just looking for some strong affirmation that the expensive choice is the right one here:

UC Berkeley-- in-state sticker
Loyola (LA)-- $87,000 scholarship (about 70% tuition), contingent on being in top 30%
dead-set on PI law

It was a miracle I made it into Berkeley and it's my dream school. However, no scholly money for sure. I'll be at the bottom of the class and I'll have to work my ass off. I also live in the LA-area and have social connections in LA, none in Berkeley (but nothing really tying me down here). That's it, those are my only arguments pro-Loyola.

It's Berkeley for sure, right?

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby Fresh » Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:59 pm

santisuk wrote:Okay, I'm just super debt-averse, hence the wavering on what would normally be a no-brainer, I think. So I'm mainly just looking for some strong affirmation that the expensive choice is the right one here:

UC Berkeley-- in-state sticker
Loyola (LA)-- $87,000 scholarship (about 70% tuition), contingent on being in top 30%
dead-set on PI law

It was a miracle I made it into Berkeley and it's my dream school. However, no scholly money for sure. I'll be at the bottom of the class and I'll have to work my ass off. I also live in the LA-area and have social connections in LA, none in Berkeley (but nothing really tying me down here). That's it, those are my only arguments pro-Loyola.


It's Berkeley for sure, right?

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby NoleinNY » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:02 am

Loyola is solid school. I love it here...


However, Berkeley is the right choice. Why don't you have any options in the middle on the table? (USC/UCLA/UCD/UCH?)

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby thexfactor » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:07 am

what the............
ucb..... shouldn't even be considering loyola. Loyola didn't even give you a full ride.

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby FeelTheHeat » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:08 am

Fresh wrote:
santisuk wrote:Okay, I'm just super debt-averse, hence the wavering on what would normally be a no-brainer, I think. So I'm mainly just looking for some strong affirmation that the expensive choice is the right one here:

UC Berkeley-- in-state sticker
Loyola (LA)-- $87,000 scholarship (about 70% tuition), contingent on being in top 30%
dead-set on PI law

It was a miracle I made it into Berkeley and it's my dream school. However, no scholly money for sure. I'll be at the bottom of the class and I'll have to work my ass off. I also live in the LA-area and have social connections in LA, none in Berkeley (but nothing really tying me down here). That's it, those are my only arguments pro-Loyola.


It's Berkeley for sure, right?

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby santisuk » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:10 am

NoleinNY wrote:Loyola is solid school. I love it here...


However, Berkeley is the right choice. Why don't you have any options in the middle on the table? (USC/UCLA/UCD/UCH?)


I did get into Hastings (sticker, I'm betting), waiting on Davis and USC.

My numbers are less than impressive (3.66/163, white as can be) so my other schools pale in comparison. I just threw an app at Berkeley on a whim, hoping for a miracle. NEVER thought they'd take me! I was about 95% sure about Loyola, so now this sudden news is throwing me all off-balance.... have lost rational thinking capabilities...

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby Ty Webb » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:12 am

santisuk wrote:Okay, I'm just super debt-averse, hence the wavering on what would normally be a no-brainer, I think. So I'm mainly just looking for some strong affirmation that the expensive choice is the right one here:

UC Berkeley-- in-state sticker
Loyola (LA)-- $87,000 scholarship (about 70% tuition), contingent on being in top 30%
dead-set on PI law

It was a miracle I made it into Berkeley and it's my dream school. However, no scholly money for sure. I'll be at the bottom of the class and I'll have to work my ass off. I also live in the LA-area and have social connections in LA, none in Berkeley (but nothing really tying me down here). That's it, those are my only arguments pro-Loyola.

It's Berkeley for sure, right?


Being "super debt-averse" is stupid.

Almost everything good that has ever come out of the world ever has been financed. Life's full of risks. The key is knowing the difference between winning deals and losing deals.

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby lawfuture10 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:14 am

santisuk wrote:
NoleinNY wrote:Loyola is solid school. I love it here...


However, Berkeley is the right choice. Why don't you have any options in the middle on the table? (USC/UCLA/UCD/UCH?)


I did get into Hastings (sticker, I'm betting), waiting on Davis and USC.

My numbers are less than impressive (3.66/163, white as can be) so my other schools pale in comparison. I just threw an app at Berkeley on a whim, hoping for a miracle. NEVER thought they'd take me! I was about 95% sure about Loyola, so now this sudden news is throwing me all off-balance.... have lost rational thinking capabilities...


How..? Cure cancer?

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby mr_toad » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:16 am

lawfuture10 wrote:
santisuk wrote:
NoleinNY wrote:Loyola is solid school. I love it here...


However, Berkeley is the right choice. Why don't you have any options in the middle on the table? (USC/UCLA/UCD/UCH?)


I did get into Hastings (sticker, I'm betting), waiting on Davis and USC.

My numbers are less than impressive (3.66/163, white as can be) so my other schools pale in comparison. I just threw an app at Berkeley on a whim, hoping for a miracle. NEVER thought they'd take me! I was about 95% sure about Loyola, so now this sudden news is throwing me all off-balance.... have lost rational thinking capabilities...


How..? Cure cancer?


No kidding. Very impressive catch with those numbers. Congrats on what must have been an amazing application!

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby santisuk » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:18 am

I lived in a Bangkok slum for 5 years working with a community development non-profit. Fluent in a second language, strong LORs/personal statement. But yeah-- still pretty incredible. I am well aware that I don't deserve it!!

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby mr_toad » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:20 am

I would daresay the opposite. Impressive softs, FTW!

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby NoleinNY » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:48 am

santisuk wrote:
My numbers are less than impressive (3.66/163, white as can be) so my other schools pale in comparison.


QFHOLYCRAP

I would like to change my response from "Berkeley is the right choice" to "Send your deposit NOW, before the school / whatever god(s) you pray to changes its mind."

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby 005618502 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:15 am

WOW congrats!!! I cant believe you got in with those numbers! but you do have impressive softs. I think this may show Berkeley really does care about softs (maybe more then any other T14 lol).

You should send your deposit to Berkeley and never even think about this decision again. Loyola isnt even on the same playing field as Berkeley.

Congrats again!

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby r6_philly » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:22 am

Ty Webb wrote:
Being "super debt-averse" is stupid.

Almost everything good that has ever come out of the world ever has been financed. Life's full of risks. The key is knowing the difference between winning deals and losing deals.


Almost all good PhDs are funded with a stipend, usually 30k+.

Financing things without adequate revenue stream/cash flow for debt service is stupid.

But I still vote Boalt.

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby 2L2011 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:24 am

Go to whittier! :shock: :lol:
santisuk wrote:I lived in a Bangkok slum for 5 years working with a community development non-profit. Fluent in a second language, strong LORs/personal statement. But yeah-- still pretty incredible. I am well aware that I don't deserve it!!
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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby youngblood » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:28 pm

Got to Berkley. No, RUN to Berkley...

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Re: probably a no-brainer...

Postby santisuk » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:20 pm

Thanks, guys! Yes, I'm definitely at Berkeley next year. I'd be an idiot to go anywhere else. Now that the shock has worn off, I can't believe I was even considering any alternatives. This is my dream school.

Good luck on the rest of your cycles!




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