The #28 spot on USNWR

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The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby donzoli » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:31 pm

If/when the #28 spot is broken up in the next USNWR rankings, which schools will fare better and which will feel the pain?

My prediction:
Fare Better: BC, UW, UNC
Feel the pain: W&M, UCD, UGA

One of these schools could easily fall to #33 or worse depending on what other schools do. There are a lot of strong schools at the #34 spot as well.
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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby girlonfire » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:35 pm

donzoli wrote:If/when the #28 spot is broken up in the next USNWR rankings, which schools will fair better and which will feel the pain?

My prediction:
Fair Better: BC, UW, UNC
Feel the pain: W&M, UCD, UGA

One of these schools could easily fall to #33 or worse depending on what other schools do. There are a lot of strong schools at the #34 spot as well.


If i was gonna guess at ranks, I'd think youre right on the money.

When do the 2011 ranks come out?

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby northwood » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:39 pm

i think W&M or UCD could go further down...... but i have no idea ( so im probably wrong)

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby Stonewall » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:44 pm

donzoli wrote:If/when the #28 spot is broken up in the next USNWR rankings, which schools will fare better and which will feel the pain?

My prediction:
Fare Better: BC, UW, UNC
Feel the pain: W&M, UCD, UGA

One of these schools could easily fall to #33 or worse depending on what other schools do. There are a lot of strong schools at the #34 spot as well.


Agreed with UGA feeling the pain.
Disagree with UNC faring better and W&M dropping.

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby nelaw2010 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:45 pm

Didn't the 2011 rankings already come out?

I thought they were leaked early.

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby donzoli » Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:46 pm

girlonfire wrote:
donzoli wrote:If/when the #28 spot is broken up in the next USNWR rankings, which schools will fair better and which will feel the pain?

My prediction:
Fair Better: BC, UW, UNC
Feel the pain: W&M, UCD, UGA

One of these schools could easily fall to #33 or worse depending on what other schools do. There are a lot of strong schools at the #34 spot as well.


If i was gonna guess at ranks, I'd think youre right on the money.

When do the 2011 ranks come out?


Looks like last year the first leak was on April 13th, so not too far off. This of course means it's rankings season!

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby girlonfire » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:04 pm

http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?p=537

:wink:


my mistake. the above are from last year.... duh...
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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby rman1201 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:06 pm

girlonfire wrote:http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?p=537

:wink:


This entry was posted on Tuesday, April 13th, 2010


The 2012 Rankings would be the new ones...

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby girlonfire » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:09 pm

rman1201 wrote:
girlonfire wrote:http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?p=537

:wink:


This entry was posted on Tuesday, April 13th, 2010


The 2012 Rankings would be the new ones...


yea, didn't realize i accidentally typed in 2011, not 2012. good catch. my bad.

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby Stonewall » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:09 pm

girlonfire wrote:http://www.lawschoolpredictor.com/?p=537

:wink:


my mistake. the above are from last year.... duh...


beat me to it, yeh nice try tho

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby donzoli » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:14 pm

I was confused for a second there, especially since USNWR has changed the formatting of the webpage

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby bk1 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:15 pm

Are we seriously having a discussion about this?

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby Stonewall » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:16 pm

bk1 wrote:Are we seriously having a discussion about this?


perhaps

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby donzoli » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:24 pm

bk1 wrote:Are we seriously having a discussion about this?


Absolutely! What are your thoughts, this is a safe place. A place where we can feel free sharing our feelings. Think of my office as a nest in a tree of trust and understanding. We can say anything here.

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby bk1 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:43 pm

donzoli wrote:
bk1 wrote:Are we seriously having a discussion about this?


Absolutely! What are your thoughts, this is a safe place. A place where we can feel free sharing our feelings. Think of my office as a nest in a tree of trust and understanding. We can say anything here.


My thoughts?

Whatever happens isn't going to matter. It's not like employment prospects are going to change because of the rankings. All of these schools could jump up and be tied for first next year and the reality of the situation wouldn't change one bit.

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby donzoli » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:48 pm

bk1 wrote:
donzoli wrote:
bk1 wrote:Are we seriously having a discussion about this?


Absolutely! What are your thoughts, this is a safe place. A place where we can feel free sharing our feelings. Think of my office as a nest in a tree of trust and understanding. We can say anything here.


My thoughts?

Whatever happens isn't going to matter. It's not like employment prospects are going to change because of the rankings. All of these schools could jump up and be tied for first next year and the reality of the situation wouldn't change one bit.


The fact that it might not matter as far as employment prospects are concerned hardly means that it does not matter

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby BlueDevil2007 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:56 pm

bk1 wrote:Whatever happens isn't going to matter.


This.

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby donzoli » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:00 pm

Whether something matters, vel non, is subjective

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby bk1 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:22 pm

donzoli wrote:The fact that it might not matter as far as employment prospects are concerned hardly means that it does not matter


It will only matter insofar as it would create some bruhaha among the people who pointlessly care about (e.g. 0L's and current students) and things that like to make a big deal out reporting little happenings in the legal community even if they are irrelevant (e.g. law blogs and websites such as ATL).

So outside of those things, it doesn't matter.

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby Grizz » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:31 pm

donzoli wrote:Whether something matters, vel non, is subjective


FYI, Latin does not make you smarter.

bk1 wrote:
donzoli wrote:The fact that it might not matter as far as employment prospects are concerned hardly means that it does not matter


It will only matter insofar as it would create some bruhaha among the people who pointlessly care about (e.g. 0L's and current students) and things that like to make a big deal out reporting little happenings in the legal community even if they are irrelevant (e.g. law blogs and websites such as ATL).

So outside of those things, it doesn't matter.


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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby donzoli » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:18 pm

I understand that rankings might not matter concretely, but the fact that they are discussed on this site ad nauseam and will continued to be discussed more vehemently and with ever greater frequency as we near the release of the 2012 rankings, tells me that people do care and they are therefore worthy of discourse

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby bk1 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:20 pm

donzoli wrote:I understand that rankings might not matter concretely, but the fact that they are discussed on this site ad nauseam and will continued to be discussed more vehemently and with ever greater frequency as we near the release of the 2012 rankings, tells me that people do care and they are therefore worthy of discourse


Some people think that Obama was born in Kenya. Is that too worthy of discussion?

Just because a bunch of 0L's care about the minutia of the USNWR ranking doesn't mean they area actually relevant. I'm a pretty big believer in the thought that anything that is irrelevant is probably not worth discussing. I'm also a big believer in calling people out for making dumb threads.

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby Informative » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:28 pm

Yeah, rankings between 15-30 don't really matter. These schools differ only by a few points in raw score and they bounce around every year.

What matters more is the geographic location and biglaw placement of these schools.

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby androstan » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:44 pm

bk1 wrote:Are we seriously having a discussion about this?


Are you seriously starting a discussion about discussing this?

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Re: The #28 spot on USNWR

Postby donzoli » Fri Feb 11, 2011 7:03 pm

bk1 wrote:
donzoli wrote:I understand that rankings might not matter concretely, but the fact that they are discussed on this site ad nauseam and will continued to be discussed more vehemently and with ever greater frequency as we near the release of the 2012 rankings, tells me that people do care and they are therefore worthy of discourse


Some people think that Obama was born in Kenya. Is that too worthy of discussion?

Just because a bunch of 0L's care about the minutia of the USNWR ranking doesn't mean they area actually relevant. I'm a pretty big believer in the thought that anything that is irrelevant is probably not worth discussing. I'm also a big believer in calling people out for making dumb threads.


I'll assume, as someone who is likely interested in the law, that you're joking about the Obama thing because I don't think you could honestly believe that a constitutionally required qualification for the job of commander in chief is not something that should be thoroughly vetted and discussed. I'm not commenting on the merits of the argument on either side, but every candidate's qualifications should be verified just as the Illinois Supreme Court thought it worthy examine Rahm Emanuel's residency.




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