Just for fun - your mini tiers Forum
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Just for fun - your mini tiers
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems the conventional wisdom on here it is:
HYS
CCN
MVP
DNCG
(with UCB being the wildcard somewhere in the middle of those mini tiers).
UVandT
Rest of top twenty
Just for fun, and not even necessarily disputing the rankings, where are your mini tiers in the top 20? and why?
here are mine:
YS
HCC (are things really different for a harvard grad and a chicago grad?)
NMVP
BND
GCUVandT
rest of top twenty
HYS
CCN
MVP
DNCG
(with UCB being the wildcard somewhere in the middle of those mini tiers).
UVandT
Rest of top twenty
Just for fun, and not even necessarily disputing the rankings, where are your mini tiers in the top 20? and why?
here are mine:
YS
HCC (are things really different for a harvard grad and a chicago grad?)
NMVP
BND
GCUVandT
rest of top twenty
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
Y
SH
CC
N
PBMV
D
NCG
That's how I see it haha
After T14 there is a clump until you get to WUSTL which is a stand alone, followed by the Boston schools probably in my opinion. Like everyone else though I consider 20-35 all about equal.
SH
CC
N
PBMV
D
NCG
That's how I see it haha
After T14 there is a clump until you get to WUSTL which is a stand alone, followed by the Boston schools probably in my opinion. Like everyone else though I consider 20-35 all about equal.
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
Sigh, egregious trolling.
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
1. Harvard
2. Everybody else
2. Everybody else
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
By who? I just thought it'd be interesting/was bored.bk187 wrote:Sigh, egregious trolling.
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
How can anybody in their right mind think that any good will come of this.
Unless you are backing this up with hard data like OCI results all you are doing is throwing around conjecture. Posts like these will just attract people who want to argue and defend school X or attack school Y. It gets boring and repetitive.
But hey, if it's fun for you then go batshit crazy for all I care.
Unless you are backing this up with hard data like OCI results all you are doing is throwing around conjecture. Posts like these will just attract people who want to argue and defend school X or attack school Y. It gets boring and repetitive.
But hey, if it's fun for you then go batshit crazy for all I care.
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Alternate rankings can be helpful for specific purposes such as federal clerkship placements, large law firm placement, section class size, etc. when based on verifiable data, but are not helpful when simply based on one's opinion of prestige.
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
Offensively terrible2014 wrote:Y
SH
CC
N
PBMV
D
NCG
That's how I see it haha
After T14 there is a clump until you get to WUSTL which is a stand alone, followed by the Boston schools probably in my opinion. Like everyone else though I consider 20-35 all about equal.
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On what grounds?IAFG wrote:Offensively terrible2014 wrote:Y
SH
CC
N
PBMV
D
NCG
That's how I see it haha
After T14 there is a clump until you get to WUSTL which is a stand alone, followed by the Boston schools probably in my opinion. Like everyone else though I consider 20-35 all about equal.
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
Okay, to turn this to more objective criteria then, what is the generally accepted ranking of the T14 for Article III clerkships?CanadianWolf wrote:Alternate rankings can be helpful for specific purposes such as federal clerkship placements, large law firm placement, section class size, etc. when based on verifiable data, but are not helpful when simply based on one's opinion of prestige.
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Duke exceptionalism, Berkeley being above any T14 except maybe GULC, UChi being above NYU but equal w CLS...2014 wrote: On what grounds?
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Ysundance95 wrote:Okay, to turn this to more objective criteria then, what is the generally accepted ranking of the T14 for Article III clerkships?CanadianWolf wrote:Alternate rankings can be helpful for specific purposes such as federal clerkship placements, large law firm placement, section class size, etc. when based on verifiable data, but are not helpful when simply based on one's opinion of prestige.
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
YHS
CCN
MVPBDNC
Gtown, Tex, Vandy, UCLA, USC
TTT
CCN
MVPBDNC
Gtown, Tex, Vandy, UCLA, USC
TTT
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
In terms of employment, which is the only thing that matters:
YS
H
CN
C
VPDN
BMCG
YS
H
CN
C
VPDN
BMCG
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zomg which C is which C?!rayiner wrote:In terms of employment, which is the only thing that matters:
YS
H
CN
C
VPDN
BMCG
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It's all opinion obviously but Berkeley is where it is because I left them in their USNWR ranking order. Duke just strikes me as being above Northwestern, don't know why, and UChi could probably be demoted to even with NYU if you want.IAFG wrote:Duke exceptionalism, Berkeley being above any T14 except maybe GULC, UChi being above NYU but equal w CLS...2014 wrote: On what grounds?
It was for fun, I don't really care.
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This.Desert Fox wrote:YHS
CCN
MVPBDNC
Gtown, Tex, Vandy, UCLA, USC
TTT
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
Columbia > Chicago.bk187 wrote:zomg which C is which C?!rayiner wrote:In terms of employment, which is the only thing that matters:
YS
H
CN
C
VPDN
BMCG
ITE, what's really mattering is schools having pipelines into big firms. Schools that send 1-2 graduates here and there like Michigan and Chicago are suffering (relative to their overall rank) as compared to schools that send tons of grads each year into specific firms.
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I was kidding about the C's.rayiner wrote:Columbia > Chicago.
ITE, what's really mattering is schools having pipelines into big firms. Schools that send 1-2 graduates here and there like Michigan and Chicago are suffering (relative to their overall rank) as compared to schools that send tons of grads each year into specific firms.

That is interesting as a reason why certain schools are suffering more than others ITE.
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this tar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punching cat tarrayiner wrote:
Columbia > Chicago.
ITE, what's really mattering is schools having pipelines into big firms. Schools that send 1-2 graduates here and there like Michigan and Chicago are suffering (relative to their overall rank) as compared to schools that send tons of grads each year into specific firms.
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
YHS
CCN
MVPDN
B
C
G
CCN
MVPDN
B
C
G
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FTFY2014 wrote:Duke just strikes me as beingabove Northwestern, don't know why, and UChi could probably be demoted to even with NYU if you want.FREAKING AWESOME.
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
these are the getting-laid tiers within the T14 (assuming target audience is average college graduate):
harvard
yale, stanford
columbia, cornell (rest of the ivies)
penn (nobody's really sure whether it's an ivy or a state school)
georgetown (it seems more frequently mentioned in law related movies than any other non-Harvard law school)
NYU (if it's in NYC it must be really cool)
duke (assuming you're not a lacrosse player)
northwestern
all the ones that begin with "university of," and aren't ivies.
harvard
yale, stanford
columbia, cornell (rest of the ivies)
penn (nobody's really sure whether it's an ivy or a state school)
georgetown (it seems more frequently mentioned in law related movies than any other non-Harvard law school)
NYU (if it's in NYC it must be really cool)
duke (assuming you're not a lacrosse player)
northwestern
all the ones that begin with "university of," and aren't ivies.
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Re: Just for fun - your mini tiers
Susan Estrich wrote that she thinks Duke is over-rated as a law school. Leitner places Duke at number 11 (same as USNews) in his top faculty rankings which are listed below:
1) Yale
2) Harvard
3) Chicago
4) Stanford
5) NYU
6) Columbia
7) UCal-Berkeley
Northwestern
9) UC-Irvine
10) Vanderbilt
11) Cornell
11) Duke
11) Michigan
14) Penn
15) UCLA
16) Virginia
17) Texas
18) GWU
18) Minnesota
20) Georgtown
1) Yale
2) Harvard
3) Chicago
4) Stanford
5) NYU
6) Columbia
7) UCal-Berkeley

9) UC-Irvine
10) Vanderbilt
11) Cornell
11) Duke
11) Michigan
14) Penn
15) UCLA
16) Virginia
17) Texas
18) GWU
18) Minnesota
20) Georgtown
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Wow I knew Irvine found some solid faculty, but...wow.CanadianWolf wrote: 9) UC-Irvine
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