Good majors for Corporate Law?

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Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby Theserjo » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:54 am

I'm majoring in Political Science right now, but I was wondering how to gear myself towards a career in corporate law? I was thinking about minoring in Economics as well. Any information would greatly help.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby St.Remy » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:06 am

Theserjo wrote:I'm majoring in Political Science right now, but I was wondering how to gear myself towards a career in corporate law? I was thinking about minoring in Economics as well. Any information would greatly help.


Your chances at getting a good corporate law gig are pretty directly tied to the quality of the law school you attend, so just major in whatever you do well at. High GPS -> Good law school -> Corporate law job. If you see yourself transitioning from being a corporate lawyer to being a more general corporate official at some point in the future I would guess that Business would be the most helpful major, though I'm sure Econ would be fine too.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby Knock » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:07 am

Theserjo wrote:I'm majoring in Political Science right now, but I was wondering how to gear myself towards a career in corporate law? I was thinking about minoring in Economics as well. Any information would greatly help.


TCR is whatever major you can get the highest GPA in, period.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby skoobily doobily » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:56 am

A background in finance never hurt anybody. But work experience in the field would be much more valuable.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby kazu » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:58 am

But don't do finance if you suck at it. A bad GPA does hurt people in law school admissions.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby 2ofspades » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:03 pm

Theserjo wrote:I was wondering how to gear myself towards a career in corporate law?

2+ years WE in business

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby Informative » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:14 am

If you have the chance now, change your major to a hard science degree. Try Computer Science, or engineering. If you want biglaw, the big firms will go deeper into the class for students with these degrees. Trust me, even the corporate groups. I've seen it time and time again.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby St.Remy » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:27 am

Informative wrote:If you have the chance now, change your major to a hard science degree. Try Computer Science, or engineering. If you want biglaw, the big firms will go deeper into the class for students with these degrees. Trust me, even the corporate groups. I've seen it time and time again.


In most cases this is horrible advice. GPA is worlds more important for getting into law school than major, so to reiterate and reinforce what I and other posters said earlier major in whatever you will do well in and maintain a high GPA in. The only reason to major in a hard science, computer science, or engineering is if you will get a higher GPA majoring in one of those things than you would majoring in anything else. Since majoring in a hard science almost always means a lower GPA this is almost always a bad idea for law school purposes. If you are one of the few people who could get a higher GPA majoring in chemistry or computer science than in any other major, consider making that your career and actually do something useful instead of going to law school.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby kurla88 » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:57 am

skoobily doobily wrote:A background in finance never hurt anybody. But work experience in the field would be much more valuable.


+1

I feel like a Finance background would have been great for a lot of the firms I'm applying at.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby BeautifulSW » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:57 pm

How about accounting?

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby concurrent fork » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:29 am

BeautifulSW wrote:How about accounting?


Like econ or finance, can be helpful in terms of background familiarity. However, unless you end up working in the field before going to LS, employers care very little about your undergrad major (exception: hard sciences). Tons of biglaw corporate associates were poli sci majors.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby shmantieantie » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:01 pm

A finance/accounting degree doesn't hurt, unless you end up getting lower grades. GPA is key.

Law school corporate law classes will generally teach you all that you need to know about corporate law, though.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby Lagunitan » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:38 pm

Lots of short-sighted advice in this thread.

What grade are you in? And how sure are you that you want to pursue "corporate law" (which can mean a lot of things) as a career?

If I were in your shoes (choosing what to major in), I would be thinking much more broadly than, "All else being equal, what major will maximize my chances of getting into the highest-ranked law school possible?" Are you sure you would rather pursue corporate law than getting involved with actually starting/managing a company? If you think you might be interested in entrepreneurship, majoring in something in the hard sciences or engineering might be a very smart move. If you think you might be interested in banking/finance, majoring in Economics, Mathematics, or something related might be a very smart move. Is it going to be as easy to get a high GPA in these majors? Nope. Will they open other doors to you besides law school/corporate law that you might find yourself wanting to pursue? Yep.

Even if you are sure you want to pursue corporate law as a career (and thus are sure you want to go to law school), taking the easiest major possible might not be advisable. I took two relatively easy majors (PoliSci and History), but I was lucky in that I found a couple of professors in the History department whose seminars challenged me in ways that my PoliSci and other History courses never did. While it is impossible to untangle completely the causal forces at play here, I'm pretty confident that I would not have scored as high on the LSAT had I just loaded up on joke lecture courses that guaranteed me easy A's. I worked much harder in these courses, but the work paid off - my abilities as a critical thinker, reader, and writer improved substantially. Beyond that, I actually found that I got better grades in more challenging courses because I found the material more engaging. I got too many stupid A- or B+ grades in courses where I just couldn't make myself care about the material because it was so basic, uninteresting, or poorly taught.

More than anything, though, taking the easiest major/courses possible just seems like a recipe for wasting your college years. My advice would be:
1) Try out a lot of different courses/majors so that you can be sure that you aren't passing up academic/career options that you find more interesting than corporate law;
2) Find good professors whose courses will challenge you and help you grow intellectually (and who can write you good rec letters later on). Take courses from these professors, not those that will guarantee you an A for just showing up.

Maybe none of this advice is helpful, but I know that when I was in your position (choosing majors) I didn't have a good sense of everything that was out there (academically and career-wise), and while I feel like I got lucky by stumbling upon some great professors, I definitely would do things differently if I had another shot. (I would probably have given much more consideration to a hard sciences major that would have given me more options outside law school, for instance).

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby St.Remy » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:51 pm

Lagunitan wrote:Lots of short-sighted advice in this thread.

What grade are you in? And how sure are you that you want to pursue "corporate law" (which can mean a lot of things) as a career?

If I were in your shoes (choosing what to major in), I would be thinking much more broadly than, "All else being equal, what major will maximize my chances of getting into the highest-ranked law school possible?" Are you sure you would rather pursue corporate law than getting involved with actually starting/managing a company? If you think you might be interested in entrepreneurship, majoring in something in the hard sciences or engineering might be a very smart move. If you think you might be interested in banking/finance, majoring in Economics, Mathematics, or something related might be a very smart move. Is it going to be as easy to get a high GPA in these majors? Nope. Will they open other doors to you besides law school/corporate law that you might find yourself wanting to pursue? Yep.

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Maybe none of this advice is helpful, but I know that when I was in your position (choosing majors) I didn't have a good sense of everything that was out there (academically and career-wise), and while I feel like I got lucky by stumbling upon some great professors, I definitely would do things differently if I had another shot. (I would probably have given much more consideration to a hard sciences major that would have given me more options outside law school, for instance).


I don't think that anyone voiced any disagreement with any of the things you said in this post. The OP wasn't asking about entrepreneurship, banking, or finance though, and if he were then Top Law Schools isn't really the place to get advice about that. What the OP asked specifically was what would be a good major for getting into corporate law, and the correct response to that query is "whatever major gives you the best GPA." That is the main thing that law schools care about. Was anyone saying that this is the major that would lead him to have the most satisfying life possible, or even suggesting that law was a good idea for him? No. Because he didn't ask, and we can't possibly know.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby 20160810 » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:31 pm

Undergraduate major is completely irrelevant to your legal career unless you have a tech background and get into IP.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby solidsnake » Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:37 pm

SBL wrote:Undergraduate major is completely irrelevant to your legal career unless you have a tech background and get into IP.


It's not completely irrelevant. If your UG major leads to sick work exp, then that can make you more competitive; e.g., graduate summa in finance, work at a bulge bracket bank for 3 yrs as a analyst, then go to hysccn, assuming you're top 10% this will make you much more competitive at WLRK within that band of other reasonably eligible applicants.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby 20160810 » Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:04 pm

solidsnake wrote:
SBL wrote:Undergraduate major is completely irrelevant to your legal career unless you have a tech background and get into IP.


It's not completely irrelevant. If your UG major leads to sick work exp, then that can make you more competitive; e.g., graduate summa in finance, work at a bulge bracket bank for 3 yrs as a analyst, then go to hysccn, assuming you're top 10% this will make you much more competitive at WLRK within that band of other reasonably eligible applicants.

This is stretching. I also doubt that that person had WLRK in mind when choosing to major in finance at age 19.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby solidsnake » Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:20 pm

SBL wrote:
solidsnake wrote:
SBL wrote:Undergraduate major is completely irrelevant to your legal career unless you have a tech background and get into IP.


It's not completely irrelevant. If your UG major leads to sick work exp, then that can make you more competitive; e.g., graduate summa in finance, work at a bulge bracket bank for 3 yrs as a analyst, then go to hysccn, assuming you're top 10% this will make you much more competitive at WLRK within that band of other reasonably eligible applicants.

This is stretching. I also doubt that that person had WLRK in mind when choosing to major in finance at age 19.


The point is, though, that choice of ug major can impact quality of work exp attained afterwards, which is definitely relevant to your legal career insofar as it helps you get hired at the best firms which can provide you with even more opportunities. So it's not "completely irrelevant." My OCI was a success at least in part because my resume was very consistent, and I could impart a very strong narrative. UG major definitely fit into that.

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby rayiner » Mon Sep 06, 2010 5:44 pm

Engineering, accounting, economics.

+1 to the guy who said engineering is good, even for corporate work. I've been successful pitching for M&A type work by arguing that as an engineer I'm trained to break down situations into their component parts and see how they fit together, etc.

That being said, the downside to engineering is that your GPA will suck and impact your ability to get into a top school...

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Re: Good majors for Corporate Law?

Postby BeautifulSW » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:00 pm

Another useful thing about engineering, accounting, nursing, etc. is for when you fail to find a job out of law school, you will have another way to make a living and pay Sallie Mae.

Sigh.




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