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Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:54 pm

So here is a little bit of my dilemma; I intend on applying to Harvard and I intend on applying to UVA. However, I find myself having difficulties choosing a school to apply to between #2 and #10 that would fit my wishes.

I DO NOT wish to practice in New York City, Chicago, or basically anywhere cold, except for MAYBE D.C and it's at the bottom of the possibility list.

Of all the Schools between Harvard and UVA, which school is best for practicing where I wish (looking at Texas, Atlanta, Florida, maybe California and D.C.)?

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby howcani111 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:55 pm

get in first. then come back.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby IAFG » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:56 pm

all of them. you will be happy to have the leverage if one offers you aid and another doesn't (initially). it is absolutely worth the app fees.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:07 pm

howcani111 wrote:get in first. then come back.


So i'll get in and then ask which schools to apply to. Ok, thanks for the great advice!
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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:10 pm

IAFG wrote:all of them. you will be happy to have the leverage if one offers you aid and another doesn't (initially). it is absolutely worth the app fees.


Believe me, I understand they're all excellent, but the truth is I have no interest applying to NYU because I won't attend there even if I get in.

I don't plan on applying to 20 schools; I'm trying to figure out two schools between Harvard and UVA that fit my ideals. If you could point to whichever ones you believe fit my criteria and why, that would be excellent!

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby IAFG » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:12 pm

Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:all of them. you will be happy to have the leverage if one offers you aid and another doesn't (initially). it is absolutely worth the app fees.


Believe me, I understand they're all excellent, but the truth is I have no interest applying to NYU because I won't attend there even if I get in.

I don't plan on applying to 20 schools; I'm trying to figure out two schools between Harvard and UVA that fit my ideals. If you could point to whichever ones you believe fit my criteria and why, that would be excellent!

if someone else isn't funding your legal education, apply to them all. if NYU offers you aid but UVA doesn't, UVA will generally view that favorably in aid negotiations. it's a game. don't be the last person to catch on.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:16 pm

IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:all of them. you will be happy to have the leverage if one offers you aid and another doesn't (initially). it is absolutely worth the app fees.


Believe me, I understand they're all excellent, but the truth is I have no interest applying to NYU because I won't attend there even if I get in.

I don't plan on applying to 20 schools; I'm trying to figure out two schools between Harvard and UVA that fit my ideals. If you could point to whichever ones you believe fit my criteria and why, that would be excellent!

if someone else isn't funding your legal education, apply to them all. if NYU offers you aid but UVA doesn't, UVA will generally view that favorably in aid negotiations. it's a game. don't be the last person to catch on.


Is it that hard for someone to name two damn schools that fit what i'm looking for without being lectured on how to play poker with law schools?

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:17 pm

Solerpower wrote:
howcani111 wrote:get in first. then come back.


So i'll get in and then ask which schools to apply to. Ok, well great advice!


The schools in the top ten are not regional schools. Some may be more regional than others (eg Stanford places better on the east coast than Berkeley, but then it probably places everywhere better), but you are not in any way restricted to practising law in those areas by attending school in them. For what it's worth, Duke may suit your needs better than one of the top ten schools. Harvard is going to place better than UVA everywhere, more or less.

You should also consider the fact that law school admissions can be capricious. It is wise to apply to several top schools because you are likely to be rejected from some schools for which you are numerically qualified -- that's why there's an admissions process. The top schools are particularly choosy.

Why would you not attend NYU? It fits your criteria, because going there would allow you to practice anywhere you wish.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:17 pm

Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:all of them. you will be happy to have the leverage if one offers you aid and another doesn't (initially). it is absolutely worth the app fees.


Believe me, I understand they're all excellent, but the truth is I have no interest applying to NYU because I won't attend there even if I get in.

I don't plan on applying to 20 schools; I'm trying to figure out two schools between Harvard and UVA that fit my ideals. If you could point to whichever ones you believe fit my criteria and why, that would be excellent!

if someone else isn't funding your legal education, apply to them all. if NYU offers you aid but UVA doesn't, UVA will generally view that favorably in aid negotiations. it's a game. don't be the last person to catch on.


Is it that hard for someone to name two damn schools that fit what i'm looking for without being lectured on how to play poker with law schools?


You sound like a really pleasant person. Best of luck.

PS Try Google next time.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby IAFG » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:18 pm

Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:
Solerpower wrote:
IAFG wrote:all of them. you will be happy to have the leverage if one offers you aid and another doesn't (initially). it is absolutely worth the app fees.


Believe me, I understand they're all excellent, but the truth is I have no interest applying to NYU because I won't attend there even if I get in.

I don't plan on applying to 20 schools; I'm trying to figure out two schools between Harvard and UVA that fit my ideals. If you could point to whichever ones you believe fit my criteria and why, that would be excellent!

if someone else isn't funding your legal education, apply to them all. if NYU offers you aid but UVA doesn't, UVA will generally view that favorably in aid negotiations. it's a game. don't be the last person to catch on.


Is it that hard for someone to name two damn schools that fit what i'm looking for without being lectured on how to play poker with law schools?

it's dumb to limit yourself only to schools you would actually attend. i find it when people do dumb things. if this is a backdoor way of trying to compare schools before you're in, that's also annoying.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby clevinger33 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:19 pm

As someone who fled cold weather for undergrad I feel compelled to tell you that weather is never a good reason to choose one school over the other. Warm weather isn't that great, and cold weather isn't that bad. Not worth closing potential doors (and, if you still decide you hate cold weather, the ability to work someplace warm) to avoid three years of northeastern winter. Really, you'll get used to it.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:21 pm

clevinger33 wrote:As someone who fled cold weather for undergrad I feel compelled to tell you that weather is never a good reason to choose one school over the other. Warm weather isn't that great, and cold weather isn't that bad. Not worth closing potential doors (and, if you still decide you hate cold weather, the ability to work someplace warm) to avoid three years of northeastern winter. Really, you'll get used to it.


I braved four years of Edinburgh, and I agree completely.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby IAFG » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:21 pm

he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby acrossthelake » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:22 pm

IAFG wrote:he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.


In that case, all of them?

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby IAFG » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:23 pm

acrossthelake wrote:
IAFG wrote:he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.


In that case, all of them?

bet you $20 he doesn't have an LSAT score yet

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:23 pm

IAFG wrote:he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.


He said exactly that he won't go to school where it's cold, except maybe Harvard.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby IAFG » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:25 pm

cigrainger wrote:
IAFG wrote:he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.


He said exactly that he won't go to school where it's cold, except maybe Harvard.

if that's the case, can someone link him a map and a list of the cities where schools 2-10 are?

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby AngryAvocado » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:26 pm

Can't believe I'm the first to call "flame" on this one.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:28 pm

You applied to what, 20 schools? I don't have $1000 to drop on applications. That would be frivolous and irresponsible.

It's dumb to limit myself to schools I would only attend? I understand schools have scholarship reciprocity, but give me a break. I'm trying to get feel for T10 schools and you tell me to apply everywhere. Is that the best choice? Sure. But not what i'm asking.
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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby TheBigMediocre » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:29 pm

OP, do you know what the fuck winters are like in Charlottesville?

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby Solerpower » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:30 pm

cigrainger wrote:
IAFG wrote:he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.


He said exactly that he won't go to school where it's cold, except maybe Harvard.


Yeah, where exactly did I say that, Chief? I didn't even mention temperature/climate ANYWHERE.

I don't want to practice anywhere cold. I don't care where the school is, just so long as it has solid reach in a warm area. Reading is important, reading comprehension is key!

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:32 pm

Solerpower wrote:You applied to what, 20 schools? I don't have $1000 to drop on applications. That would be frivolous and irresponsible.

It's dumb to limit myself to schools I would only attend? I understand schools have scholarship reciprocity, but give me a break. I'm trying to get feel for T10 schools and you tell me to apply everywhere. Is that the best choice? Sure. But not what i'm asking.


If you have a strong enough LSAT to get in, you'll probably get a fee waiver or two.

You're still not getting that NYU does not limit you to practice in New York. By any stretch of the imagination.

And I hope it's a flame.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby IAFG » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:32 pm

Solerpower wrote:You applied to what, 20 schools? I don't have $1000 to drop on applications. That would be frivolous and irresponsible.

It's dumb to limit myself to schools I would only attend? I understand schools have scholarship reciprocity, but give me a break. I'm trying to get feel for T10 schools and you tell me to apply everywhere. Is that the best choice? Sure. But not what i'm asking.

my story: i got into UVA, GULC and NU, no aid at any. NU told me I was screwed re aid. then, like, two weeks before my deposit was due at NU, GULC offered me aid. a lot. i told NU, and *BAM* $50k. which is more than $1k. by a decent amount. lessons: apply to the peer schools of your targets, and don't withdraw until the bitter end. doing otherwise would be "frivolous and irresponsible" since you know this is how law school aid negotiations works.

edit: i never wanted to go to GULC. the campus makes me hyperventilate from claustrophobia.
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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby cigrainger » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:33 pm

Solerpower wrote:
cigrainger wrote:
IAFG wrote:he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.


He said exactly that he won't go to school where it's cold, except maybe Harvard.


Yeah, where exactly did I say that, Chief? I didn't even mention temperature/climate ANYWHERE.

I don't want to practice anywhere cold. I don't care where the school is, just so long as it has solid reach in a warm area. Reading is important, reading comprehension is key!


Poor trolling skills.

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Re: Which school between Harvard and UVA

Postby TheBigMediocre » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:34 pm

Solerpower wrote:
cigrainger wrote:
IAFG wrote:he isn't saying he won't go to school where it's cold, he is asking which schools will let him practice where it's warm.


He said exactly that he won't go to school where it's cold, except maybe Harvard.


Yeah, where exactly did I say that, Chief? I didn't even mention temperature/climate ANYWHERE.

I don't want to practice anywhere cold. I don't care where the school is, just so long as it has solid reach in a warm area. Reading is important, reading comprehension is key!


With your criteria, I suggest that you...
1. Write the name of each T-14 on a slip of paper
2. Throw them in a hat.
3. Shake said hat.
4. Draw two.
5. Apply.




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