boilercat wrote: aznflyingpanda wrote: Hopefullawstudent wrote:
aznflyingpanda wrote:Personally, and I'm in-state, I'd pick UCLA over Cornell at sticker. UCLA offers more opportunities to network for Callifornia, the surrounding area around the school is very nice, and the alumni base is much stronger.
I'm a little hesitant to believe this. However, I think with time, UCLA's alumni base will surpass USC's. This is the thing about UCLA: It seems like everything is going to improve with time. It is really a young school. It just needs to make that aggressive push like the push Northwestern did back in the 2000s and recruit a class with a median LSAT of 170 and relax that GPA wall a bit. UCLA could totally push its numbers up a bit more if you ask me.
As for the price, yea, I'm not really concerned so much about the cost of attendance at any law school, but to have in-state tuition added on top of everything else is of course nice. I simply cannot justify spending 60k more in tuition at Cornell. Unless Cornell comes through with a scholarship, this battle is looking like it's over.
Sorry, I meant the alumni base specifically in California. Most UCLA grads stay in CA by choice though, so it's not as strong nationally.
Well, it's lay prestige and probably even its prestige within the law can't compare to Cornell's
I agree though with HL's general sentiment that UCLA is a rising star. All it really needs is for the economy to bounce back so it can start placing really well in LA biglaw, thus enabling it to recruit people with numbers like mine. (EDIT: that completely sounded douchey, sorry)
Ha, well you ARE leaning towards Duke right now, aren't you?
As you said, which I agree on, the economy in CA needs to pick up a bit of steam to help out UCLA's placement statistics. Having said that, if anyone is entering law school with the West Coast as a definite goal, then I think UCLA's strength belies its rank outside the T14. I know Duke, Michigan, and Cornell have national prestige. However, California is like Texas: It is one of those states that has an insular culture, and an economy that grows increasingly autonomous with time. My point: California prestige trumps national prestige, at least by lay standards. I'd assume since UCLA's rank is well-known and well-respected in California, it scores big points with firms on the West, probably pushing it up to a close tie with, or even an advantage over Michigan, Duke, and probably certainly Cornell and Georgetown.
From the many threads I've read, and from advice from a UChicago Law professor, as long as I know I want to work on the West Coast, UCLA Law is very hard to beat. This professor said, "Outside of the top 6 schools and Berkeley, UCLA is the next best choice for California. Go with it." I think that pretty much settled my decision!