169 Waitlist at Fordham

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169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby ryguy » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:33 pm

I was just waitlisted via status checker at Fordham PT with a 169/3.42, no convictions, non-retarded personal statements. Hmm. Anyone know why this might've happened?

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby Cardboardbox » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:35 pm

YP most likely.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby IHaveDietMoxie » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:40 pm

yp

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby WhyBother? » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:45 pm

I was accepted with numbers above that...so I wouldn't assume YP. Fordham is known for caring whether or not you express interest in the school. If I were you, I would call them immediately and let them know you want to stay on the waitlist. Send a LOCI. Is there any chance you are in the NYC area but didn't visit? I know several people that have landed on the waitlist inexplicably- most seem to have this in common. If you actually want to go, let them know that.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby Raskolnikoff » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:49 pm

what is YP?

your problem?

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby WhyBother? » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:54 pm

YP= Yield Protect

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby ryguy » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:57 pm

I am a NYC resident all my life, and I suppose I figured visiting would be done during the school's advertised visiting weekends. As for the explicit interest in Fordham...they didn't require nor ask for a "Why Fordham" - it seems odd that there would be some kind of a "secret requirement" that I sent an unsolicited statement to truly show my love.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby WhyBother? » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:02 pm

I didn't mean to imply you need to send a statement. I didn't do that myself. But visiting would definitely help you express interest. They will even let you meet with a member of the admissions staff. Formulate a few well-thought-out questions and go on a tour. It won't take that long and it's worth it if you want to go to Fordham. That said, you do have strong credentials so you'll probably have other options.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby OperaSoprano » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:05 pm

WhyBother? wrote:I was accepted with numbers above that...so I wouldn't assume YP. Fordham is known for caring whether or not you express interest in the school. If I were you, I would call them immediately and let them know you want to stay on the waitlist. Send a LOCI. Is there any chance you are in the NYC area but didn't visit? I know several people that have landed on the waitlist inexplicably- most seem to have this in common. If you actually want to go, let them know that.


This. Fordham is not known for YPing at all... I personally know a 180 who was accepted, and half of CLS '12 applied and got in as well. Fordham is waitlisting like crazy this cycle. It could have been a number of things, but if OP wants to go, a well placed LOCI should result in admission.

FTR, a 169/3.4x is probably not going to get YP'd at any school in the 20-30 range. If this has happened to the OP at any other T30s, he/she needs to reread apps just to make sure nothing inadvertent was said. It's happened.

EDIT: DB said you don't need a Why X statement, but they probably help anyway. The school got a bunch of them from me... too bad they were LOCIs. I do think you should check your app and check with your recommenders to make sure nothing is wrong.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby soullogical » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:09 pm

How exactly does a yield protect work and why do schools utilize it?

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby 84Sunbird2000 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:17 pm

Methinks the applicant pool is larger than we know across the board.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby 77to101 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:18 pm

Cardboardbox wrote:YP most likely.
Raskolnikoff wrote:what is YP?

your problem?


"Your problem, most likely."

I LOLed

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby ryguy » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:18 pm

I haven't heard from anyone else yet. I just decided to check my status checkers, and there is was. "Your file has been waitlisted".

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby scribelaw » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:27 pm

This is the kind of crap that makes me nervous.

No way you should've been WL. You GPA is a few points below median, but it's not that bad, and that LSAT should've made you a lock.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby OperaSoprano » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:32 pm

soullogical wrote:How exactly does a yield protect work and why do schools utilize it?


Schools waitlist people whom they think will not attend, so their yield percentage, which gets reported to USNews, will not take a hit.

Fordham is not known for abusing YP. Applications really are up by quite a lot. However, OP's numbers should have been golden, and he/she should investigate to make sure nothing is wrong.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby ryguy » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:37 pm

It is not anything that I did. I wish that was the case. Then I could say "oh i didn't do whatever".

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby rw2264 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:51 pm

applying with a 3.38 and a 170... this makes me freak out.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby goosey » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:55 pm

ryguy wrote:It is not anything that I did. I wish that was the case. Then I could say "oh i didn't do whatever".


my friend asked somebody to write him a lor and she agreed happily. she gave it to him in a sealed envelope and he put it up to the light and noticed some negative words so he opened it and saw that she wrote bad stuff about him, so he threw it out. then she would periodically ask him if he heard anything back yet.

:shock:

not to freak u out, but anything is possible

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby scribelaw » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:01 pm

goosey wrote:
ryguy wrote:It is not anything that I did. I wish that was the case. Then I could say "oh i didn't do whatever".


my friend asked somebody to write him a lor and she agreed happily. she gave it to him in a sealed envelope and he put it up to the light and noticed some negative words so he opened it and saw that she wrote bad stuff about him, so he threw it out. then she would periodically ask him if he heard anything back yet.

:shock:

not to freak u out, but anything is possible


That's just cold. Isn't it just good manners not to agree to write a letter if you don't have anything nice to say?

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby ryguy » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:02 pm

Oh for God's sake. You just made up that story. My LOR's came from two college professors that I trust 100%.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby jl2032 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:03 pm

That is scary.

:?

Just applied to PT. Let's see how that one goes...
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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby WhyBother? » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:05 pm

jl2032 wrote:Just applied with a 3.34 and 172 to PT. Let's see how that one goes...


Are you applying PT because you'll be working? Either way, you're almost certainly in.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby ryguy » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:05 pm

Hopefully well!!!

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby goosey » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:10 pm

scribelaw wrote:
goosey wrote:
ryguy wrote:It is not anything that I did. I wish that was the case. Then I could say "oh i didn't do whatever".


my friend asked somebody to write him a lor and she agreed happily. she gave it to him in a sealed envelope and he put it up to the light and noticed some negative words so he opened it and saw that she wrote bad stuff about him, so he threw it out. then she would periodically ask him if he heard anything back yet.

:shock:

not to freak u out, but anything is possible


That's just cold. Isn't it just good manners not to agree to write a letter if you don't have anything nice to say?


yeah thats what I thought. You could just as easily say no. Thats freakin weird.

ryguy-chill out. I didnt make up the story and I was just giving you a possibility. if you trust them, then great. there is, of course, the other possibility that theyre not all about numbers and just werent ready to accept you at this point, despite the lsat.

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Re: 169 Waitlist at Fordham

Postby ToTransferOrNot » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:52 pm

Meh, if someone asked me for a recommendation, I would write an honest one. If they don't have the wherewithall to realize that they were bad employees/bad students in my class/at the job, not really my fault. Now, if I had absolutely nothing good to say, that would be a little different. It is frequent for LoRs to have both positive and negative information in them, though, because people normally aren't perfect.

That said, following up like that is kind of cold.




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