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Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:30 am
by Lawfromday1
Hi, all. I am new to this website. I am a sophomore in college looking to graduate a year early (class of 2018) from undergrad.
Assuming an undergraduate GPA of 3.7-3.75 when I apply (I am also a triple major, if that matters), how high of an LSAT would I need to have a good/very good chance of getting into Harvard/Yale/Stanford? While I have not started LSAT prep yet, I have historically done extremely well, (99%+ percentile) on standardized exams, and no score is out of the question for me. Also, I go to a top New York public school.
Thanks.
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:32 am
by kingpin101
With a GPA like yours, no LSAT score will give you a good chance at YS. For H, aim for a 175+.
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:46 am
by HYPSM
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Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:55 am
by sodomojo
Lawfromday1 wrote:Also, I go to a top New York public school.
Lol sounds like an oxymoron. Unless you're referring to USMA?
Anyways, 3.75 is 25% at H, so you'd need to aim for their 75% LSAT, which is 175. 3.75 is below 25% for YS so you'd likely need at least a 177. You're better off aiming high and getting into CN with $$.
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 12:55 am
by HYPSM
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Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:10 am
by ArtistOfManliness
Lawfromday1 wrote:Hi, all. I am new to this website. I am a sophomore in college looking to graduate a year early (class of 2018) from undergrad.
Assuming an undergraduate GPA of 3.7-3.75 when I apply (I am also a triple major, if that matters), how high of an LSAT would I need to have a good/very good chance of getting into Harvard/Yale/Stanford? While I have not started LSAT prep yet, I have historically done extremely well, (99%+ percentile) on standardized exams, and no score is out of the question for me. Also, I go to a top New York public school.
Thanks.
Drop one/two of the majors so you can graduate with a 3.9+. With your guaranteed 99th percentile, that'll get you into HYS.
But, consider two things: First, the 99th percentile is only a 172. Second, a lot of the people taking the LSAT did well on standardized tests too, so people typically underperform their historic percentiles. (For instance, me. With my 2400 on the SAT, I was in the 99.98th percentile, but my 180 on the LSAT barely got me into the 99.97th. The exception that proves the rule, if you will.).
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:24 am
by lymenheimer
ArtistOfManliness wrote:Lawfromday1 wrote:Hi, all. I am new to this website. I am a sophomore in college looking to graduate a year early (class of 2018) from undergrad.
Assuming an undergraduate GPA of 3.7-3.75 when I apply (I am also a triple major, if that matters), how high of an LSAT would I need to have a good/very good chance of getting into Harvard/Yale/Stanford? While I have not started LSAT prep yet, I have historically done extremely well, (99%+ percentile) on standardized exams, and no score is out of the question for me. Also, I go to a top New York public school.
Thanks.
Drop one/two of the majors so you can graduate with a 3.9+. With your guaranteed 99th percentile, that'll get you into HYS.
But, consider two things: First, the 99th percentile is only a 172. Second, a lot of the people taking the LSAT did well on standardized tests too, so people typically underperform their historic percentiles. (For instance, me. With my 2400 on the SAT, I was in the 99.98th percentile, but my 180 on the LSAT barely got me into the 99.97th. The exception that proves the rule, if you will.).
Either the bolded, or don't graduate early. Take the extra year to improve your gpa. Also,

Also, go to mylsn and play with numbers ffs
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:45 pm
by Lawfromday1
Thanks all for the tips. If I was able to get my GPA into the 3.8-3.85 range, what might the answers to my original post be then?
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:41 pm
by Pozzo
Lawfromday1 wrote:Thanks all for the tips. If I was able to get my GPA into the 3.8-3.85 range, what might the answers to my original post be then?

Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:35 pm
by lymenheimer
Lawfromday1 wrote:Thanks all for the tips. If I was able to get my GPA into the 3.8-3.85 range, what might the answers to my original post be then?
"Thanks for the tips. I'm ignoring your tips."
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 7:12 pm
by kingpin101
Lawfromday1 wrote:Thanks all for the tips. If I was able to get my GPA into the 3.8-3.85 range, what might the answers to my original post be then?
Jesus christ you really like your hypotheticals don't you?
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:35 pm
by HYPSM
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Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2016 9:10 pm
by lymenheimer
HYPSM wrote:lymenheimer wrote:Lawfromday1 wrote:Thanks all for the tips. If I was able to get my GPA into the 3.8-3.85 range, what might the answers to my original post be then?
"Thanks for the tips. I'm ignoring your tips."
Yet another naive kid who's deluded himself into thinking he can break 170 because he did, like, "really well on the SAT and stuff."
Oh, and he can raise his GPA from 3.7 to 3.85 at will too.
I was more pointing out my "play around with numbers on mylsn" suggestion. But probably that too. Haha
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:07 pm
by jbagelboy
graduating early is an extremely bad idea in your position. its highly HYS will accept you with those grades and only 3 years of school. stay the additional year and complete a full experience.
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 11:20 pm
by Barack O'Drama
Lawfromday1 wrote:Thanks all for the tips. If I was able to get my GPA into the 3.8-3.85 range, what might the answers to my original post be then?
175+ IF you can get your GPA up to a 3.85+ seem to be about right.
Check out MyLSN.info and play around with the numbers.
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 2:02 am
by Julien_Benda
HYPSM wrote: Also, there are no "top" public schools in NY. Bing, Geneseo, Stony Brook, Hunter, Baruch, etc. are not "top public schools" and this will not help you for law schools admissions. If anything, those schools are not known at all for being rigorous and your GPA will be interpreted in such a context.
Dude. You forgot SUNY Retail.
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:42 am
by Dcc617
Lawfromday1 wrote:Hi, all. I am new to this website. I am a sophomore in college looking to graduate a year early (class of 2018) from undergrad.
Assuming an undergraduate GPA of 3.7-3.75 when I apply (I am also a triple major, if that matters), how high of an LSAT would I need to have a good/very good chance of getting into Harvard/Yale/Stanford? While I have not started LSAT prep yet, I have historically done extremely well, (99%+ percentile) on standardized exams, and no score is out of the question for me. Also, I go to a top New York public school.
Thanks.
With a 3.72 and a 176 I got into Harvard and waitlisted at Stanford and Yale.
You should also definitely take time off after undergrad. I think something like 80% of Harvard students this year have at least one year of work experience. It's a big push. Also, it gives you perspective and makes you a better person.
Strength of school generally only matters if it's a tip top one or a rock bottom one. We have a ton of different undergrads at Harvard.
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:26 am
by Nebby
Pozzo wrote:Lawfromday1 wrote:Thanks all for the tips. If I was able to get my GPA into the 3.8-3.85 range, what might the answers to my original post be then?

My favorite part of this chart is that HYS have worse employment stats than CCNP
Re: Chances at HYS
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:19 pm
by Nonconsecutive
Dcc617 wrote:Lawfromday1 wrote:Hi, all. I am new to this website. I am a sophomore in college looking to graduate a year early (class of 2018) from undergrad.
Assuming an undergraduate GPA of 3.7-3.75 when I apply (I am also a triple major, if that matters), how high of an LSAT would I need to have a good/very good chance of getting into Harvard/Yale/Stanford? While I have not started LSAT prep yet, I have historically done extremely well, (99%+ percentile) on standardized exams, and no score is out of the question for me. Also, I go to a top New York public school.
Thanks.
With a 3.72 and a 176 I got into Harvard and waitlisted at Stanford and Yale.
You should also definitely take time off after undergrad. I think something like 80% of Harvard students this year have at least one year of work experience. It's a big push. Also, it gives you perspective and makes you a better person.
Strength of school generally only matters if it's a tip top one or a rock bottom one. We have a ton of different undergrads at Harvard.
Just agreeing with all of this. I had similar stats and got into S as well (didn't apply to Y). But seriously, go work for awhile.