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Whats with everyone talking about IVY law schools this cycle???

PSA ivy is not a useful distinction in law school admissions. T14 or bust, kids....

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Bach-City wrote:I think the stats from a few years ago showed the highest LSAT median in the country was Harvard and Yale at 166, which is almost completely outside the T14 range.

Not to nitpick, but Yale's median LSAT is 173, and Harvard's 75th/25th percentiles were 175/170, so I think this must be an error?

A. Nony Mouse wrote:

Bach-City wrote:I think the stats from a few years ago showed the highest LSAT median in the country was Harvard and Yale at 166, which is almost completely outside the T14 range.

Not to nitpick, but Yale's median LSAT is 173, and Harvard's 75th/25th percentiles were 175/170, so I think this must be an error?

Medians for undergrad LSAT takers, not law school admits.

Grond wrote:

A. Nony Mouse wrote:

Bach-City wrote:I think the stats from a few years ago showed the highest LSAT median in the country was Harvard and Yale at 166, which is almost completely outside the T14 range.

Not to nitpick, but Yale's median LSAT is 173, and Harvard's 75th/25th percentiles were 175/170, so I think this must be an error?

Medians for undergrad LSAT takers, not law school admits.

Ohhhhhhh now I get it. Thanks.

My understanding is undergrad preftige is a non-factor in admissions. No one cares because USNWR doesn't have a metric for "number of Ivy bros who grace your law school with their presence". If they did, adcomms might start to care how blue-blood your undergrad is. Until then, it's all about that LSAT/GPA.

(The only exception I've heard for this is some schools with crazy grade deflation. Adcomms are aware which institutions those are and kiiiinda consider it as a factor. Highly doubt they'd completely disregard a trash GPA though.)

Oh yea, and to pile on, Ivy law school is not a thing. NYU over Cornell all day, every day.

A. Nony Mouse wrote:

Bach-City wrote:I think the stats from a few years ago showed the highest LSAT median in the country was Harvard and Yale at 166, which is almost completely outside the T14 range.

Not to nitpick, but Yale's median LSAT is 173, and Harvard's 75th/25th percentiles were 175/170, so I think this must be an error?

I think he means median score of students at those undergrads who take the LSAT.

A. Nony Mouse wrote:

Bach-City wrote:I think the stats from a few years ago showed the highest LSAT median in the country was Harvard and Yale at 166, which is almost completely outside the T14 range.

Not to nitpick, but Yale's median LSAT is 173, and Harvard's 75th/25th percentiles were 175/170, so I think this must be an error?

I think he was referring to the median LSAT scores of their undergraduates

yes, I get that now, thanks all.

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Bach-City wrote:

ponderingmeerkat wrote:My understanding is undergrad preftige is a non-factor in admissions. No one cares because USNWR doesn't have a metric for "number of Ivy bros who grace your law school with their presence". If they did, adcomms might start to care how blue-blood your undergrad is. Until then, it's all about that LSAT/GPA.

(The only exception I've heard for this is some schools with crazy grade deflation. Adcomms are aware which institutions those are and kiiiinda consider it as a factor. Highly doubt they'd completely disregard a trash GPA though.)

Oh yea, and to pile on, Ivy law school is not a thing. NYU over Cornell all day, every day.

Isn't that basically only Princeton?

Yup. And outside the Ivies I've heard places like CIT/MIT, Harvey Mudd, West Point etc. have similar issues.

ponderingmeerkat wrote:

Bach-City wrote:

Isn't that basically only Princeton?

Yup. And outside the Ivies I've heard places like CIT/MIT, Harvey Mudd, West Point etc. have similar issues.

My school does grade deflation as well and our school sends a letter along with our transcripts explaining that. I don't think it had any positive effect on my cycle though.