178/3.5 money? Forum
- melmelcoolj
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178/3.5 money?
I am wondering if it is possible to get money anywhere in the T14 with numbers as such? Quite a few people recommended EDing Northwestern, but I am not sure if that is a smart move. I will have about two years of work experience in internet by the time I attend law school, and one year of experience when I apply. So NU seems to be a fit?
I have searched extensively on LSN, but there seems to be not enough data points for money. If you have any inputs, that would be great. Thanks in advance!
I have searched extensively on LSN, but there seems to be not enough data points for money. If you have any inputs, that would be great. Thanks in advance!
- jumbocolumbo
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
Lower t-14 should definitely offer you something. With that LSAT you're in great shape. GPA isn't that bad, just not sure how it will affect you higher up.
- Tiago Splitter
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
Definitely ED Northwestern.
- Clearly
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Ed nu and apply broadly. I think you get NU with 150 but just in case.
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
So actually I think you can make an argument that ED'ing NW might not be that smart, and here's why:
NW is towards the bottom-ish of the T14, and I think with those numbers, you're likely looking at admission to a few T6 schools. If you play your cards right, you could end up with significant $$ at schools closer to the middle of the T14 (think UVA/Michigan/Boalt)...and that's before you start negotiating.
On the other hand, ED at NW is a safe option and it's a fine school. I also think there's a VERY strong chance that you'd get in ED, especially given your work experience.
Either way, congrats on your LSAT score and you're in an extremely strong position for next cycle
NW is towards the bottom-ish of the T14, and I think with those numbers, you're likely looking at admission to a few T6 schools. If you play your cards right, you could end up with significant $$ at schools closer to the middle of the T14 (think UVA/Michigan/Boalt)...and that's before you start negotiating.
On the other hand, ED at NW is a safe option and it's a fine school. I also think there's a VERY strong chance that you'd get in ED, especially given your work experience.
Either way, congrats on your LSAT score and you're in an extremely strong position for next cycle
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- melmelcoolj
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
Thanks guys for the input. I am wondering if with my numbers I can get any money from T6 (maybe 1/3 tuition from Columbia/NYU), or half tuition from Michigan/Boalt/UVA? If so, I may also choose those options.
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Those options are worse than 150k from northwestern. But yes you can definitely get money from those other schools.melmelcoolj wrote:Thanks guys for the input. I am wondering if with my numbers I can get any money from T6 (maybe 1/3 tuition from Columbia/NYU), or half tuition from Michigan/Boalt/UVA? If so, I may also choose those options.
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I think a lot of this depends on what you want to do after law school. If you're really desiring a big firm, then 150k at NW makes sense (though again, 150k does NOT equal a full scholly these days.) However, if you want FC or PI, Boalt/UVA at a slightly smaller scholarship could make quite a bit of sense.Tiago Splitter wrote:Those options are worse than 150k from northwestern. But yes you can definitely get money from those other schools.melmelcoolj wrote:Thanks guys for the input. I am wondering if with my numbers I can get any money from T6 (maybe 1/3 tuition from Columbia/NYU), or half tuition from Michigan/Boalt/UVA? If so, I may also choose those options.
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
I am thinking of doing BigLaw after graduation. So technically speaking, going to T6 would not really change the game? I was under the impression that I could get a worse grade point average at a T6 but still get into a BigLaw firm, while there seems to be fewer options coming out of NU. But it could be wrong.Tiago Splitter wrote:Those options are worse than 150k from northwestern. But yes you can definitely get money from those other schools.melmelcoolj wrote:Thanks guys for the input. I am wondering if with my numbers I can get any money from T6 (maybe 1/3 tuition from Columbia/NYU), or half tuition from Michigan/Boalt/UVA? If so, I may also choose those options.
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
I only want BigLaw after graduation. Since I am an international student, PI and FC are not really options. But again does going to a T6 school would give me a larger chance to get into a BigLaw firm? I know the difference is not perhaps super pronounced. But how big is the difference between a T6 (i.e. Columbia) and something at the bottom of the T14 (i.e. NU) in terms of employment.gsy987 wrote:I think a lot of this depends on what you want to do after law school. If you're really desiring a big firm, then 150k at NW makes sense (though again, 150k does NOT equal a full scholly these days.) However, if you want FC or PI, Boalt/UVA at a slightly smaller scholarship could make quite a bit of sense.Tiago Splitter wrote:Those options are worse than 150k from northwestern. But yes you can definitely get money from those other schools.melmelcoolj wrote:Thanks guys for the input. I am wondering if with my numbers I can get any money from T6 (maybe 1/3 tuition from Columbia/NYU), or half tuition from Michigan/Boalt/UVA? If so, I may also choose those options.
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
You can find this on the internet. There's a recent TLS thread with the data of BL+FC numbers. NU is higher than NYU and this is a scenario where following the USNWR rankings makes little sense. The poster above who suggested that NU is at the bottom of the T14 and that you could be passing on a school like Michigan is an idiot. NU is a better school than Michigan.melmelcoolj wrote:I only want BigLaw after graduation. Since I am an international student, PI and FC are not really options. But again does going to a T6 school would give me a larger chance to get into a BigLaw firm? I know the difference is not perhaps super pronounced. But how big is the difference between a T6 (i.e. Columbia) and something at the bottom of the T14 (i.e. NU) in terms of employment.gsy987 wrote:I think a lot of this depends on what you want to do after law school. If you're really desiring a big firm, then 150k at NW makes sense (though again, 150k does NOT equal a full scholly these days.) However, if you want FC or PI, Boalt/UVA at a slightly smaller scholarship could make quite a bit of sense.Tiago Splitter wrote:Those options are worse than 150k from northwestern. But yes you can definitely get money from those other schools.melmelcoolj wrote:Thanks guys for the input. I am wondering if with my numbers I can get any money from T6 (maybe 1/3 tuition from Columbia/NYU), or half tuition from Michigan/Boalt/UVA? If so, I may also choose those options.
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If you want biglaw definitely go NU ED.
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Jeez, thanks! Anyways, if biglaw is the goal (which we didn't know until OP mentioned it), then NU w/ ED makes sense. If OP was interested in FC or PI, those other schools that I mentioned would've made more sense.Mullens wrote:You can find this on the internet. There's a recent TLS thread with the data of BL+FC numbers. NU is higher than NYU and this is a scenario where following the USNWR rankings makes little sense. The poster above who suggested that NU is at the bottom of the T14 and that you could be passing on a school like Michigan is an idiot. NU is a better school than Michigan.melmelcoolj wrote:I only want BigLaw after graduation. Since I am an international student, PI and FC are not really options. But again does going to a T6 school would give me a larger chance to get into a BigLaw firm? I know the difference is not perhaps super pronounced. But how big is the difference between a T6 (i.e. Columbia) and something at the bottom of the T14 (i.e. NU) in terms of employment.gsy987 wrote:I think a lot of this depends on what you want to do after law school. If you're really desiring a big firm, then 150k at NW makes sense (though again, 150k does NOT equal a full scholly these days.) However, if you want FC or PI, Boalt/UVA at a slightly smaller scholarship could make quite a bit of sense.Tiago Splitter wrote:Those options are worse than 150k from northwestern. But yes you can definitely get money from those other schools.melmelcoolj wrote:Thanks guys for the input. I am wondering if with my numbers I can get any money from T6 (maybe 1/3 tuition from Columbia/NYU), or half tuition from Michigan/Boalt/UVA? If so, I may also choose those options.
(I'm not going to take the bait and respond to Mullens calling me an idiot...but I will mention that Michigan has a higher LST employment score, a lower LST underemployment score, and is cheaper to attend then NU! They're basically comparable schools, and I don't think the data really supports saying that NU is a better school.)
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- Pneumonia
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
I had your exact numbers two cycles ago, feel free to PM me.
See also: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 9&t=212353
See also: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 9&t=212353
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International student? Where did you go to undergrad?
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On the other hand, the stats certainly DO NOT support the proposition that Michigan is worth more money than NU, which is how the discussion arose in the first place.gsy987 wrote:
Jeez, thanks! Anyways, if biglaw is the goal (which we didn't know until OP mentioned it), then NU w/ ED makes sense. If OP was interested in FC or PI, those other schools that I mentioned would've made more sense.
(I'm not going to take the bait and respond to Mullens calling me an idiot...but I will mention that Michigan has a higher LST employment score, a lower LST underemployment score, and is cheaper to attend then NU! They're basically comparable schools, and I don't think the data really supports saying that NU is a better school.)
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
Do you have a plan to finance whatever portion you don't pay? Much easier to do that if most of your tuition is covered by scholarship.melmelcoolj wrote:I only want BigLaw after graduation. Since I am an international student, PI and FC are not really options. But again does going to a T6 school would give me a larger chance to get into a BigLaw firm? I know the difference is not perhaps super pronounced. But how big is the difference between a T6 (i.e. Columbia) and something at the bottom of the T14 (i.e. NU) in terms of employment.gsy987 wrote:I think a lot of this depends on what you want to do after law school. If you're really desiring a big firm, then 150k at NW makes sense (though again, 150k does NOT equal a full scholly these days.) However, if you want FC or PI, Boalt/UVA at a slightly smaller scholarship could make quite a bit of sense.Tiago Splitter wrote:Those options are worse than 150k from northwestern. But yes you can definitely get money from those other schools.melmelcoolj wrote:Thanks guys for the input. I am wondering if with my numbers I can get any money from T6 (maybe 1/3 tuition from Columbia/NYU), or half tuition from Michigan/Boalt/UVA? If so, I may also choose those options.
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- melmelcoolj
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
I will save up money this year, and cover the first year of law school (say around 25,000 dollars). And the second year and third year expenses I don't really know yet, but I guess I can save up the money as I go.2014 wrote:Do you have a plan to finance whatever portion you don't pay? Much easier to do that if most of your tuition is covered by scholarship.melmelcoolj wrote:I only want BigLaw after graduation. Since I am an international student, PI and FC are not really options. But again does going to a T6 school would give me a larger chance to get into a BigLaw firm? I know the difference is not perhaps super pronounced. But how big is the difference between a T6 (i.e. Columbia) and something at the bottom of the T14 (i.e. NU) in terms of employment.gsy987 wrote:I think a lot of this depends on what you want to do after law school. If you're really desiring a big firm, then 150k at NW makes sense (though again, 150k does NOT equal a full scholly these days.) However, if you want FC or PI, Boalt/UVA at a slightly smaller scholarship could make quite a bit of sense.Tiago Splitter wrote:Those options are worse than 150k from northwestern. But yes you can definitely get money from those other schools.melmelcoolj wrote:Thanks guys for the input. I am wondering if with my numbers I can get any money from T6 (maybe 1/3 tuition from Columbia/NYU), or half tuition from Michigan/Boalt/UVA? If so, I may also choose those options.
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
Which country you went to undergrad in is really important to this hypo, plz answer.
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Why, In the US. It is a lower ranked Ivy league school (i.e. not HYP).Clearly wrote:Which country you went to undergrad in is really important to this hypo, plz answer.
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
K. International gpas are factored differently so just checking
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Re: 178/3.5 money?
In what way? Canadian btwClearly wrote:K. International gpas are factored differently so just checking
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Canadian gpas are the exception. They're treated the same as us gpas I believeSonicHell wrote:In what way? Canadian btwClearly wrote:K. International gpas are factored differently so just checking
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Clearly wrote:Canadian gpas are the exception. They're treated the same as us gpas I believeSonicHell wrote:In what way? Canadian btwClearly wrote:K. International gpas are factored differently so just checking
Just to clarify. I think OP went to school in the US, but is from Canada and is technically an international student. So it really isn't a Canadian GPA
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Ya they already answered that.Nachoo2019 wrote:Clearly wrote:Canadian gpas are the exception. They're treated the same as us gpas I believeSonicHell wrote:In what way? Canadian btwClearly wrote:K. International gpas are factored differently so just checking
Just to clarify. I think OP went to school in the US, but is from Canada and is technically an international student. So it really isn't a Canadian GPA
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