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Nah I doubt it. Urm status combined that gpa will do all the legwork your application needs.PRinNYC wrote:Thanks for the responses! Does anyone think my abysmal softs will hamper my application at either?
you will likely get into one or both as it stands.PRinNYC wrote:Assuming scholarship money isn't an issue, would you suggest retaking the LSAT? Like I said, I'm not opposed to retaking the test but I'd obviously rather avoid the stress of taking it again if I can comfortably get in with my original score.
If you want to go to NYU or Columbia, you don't necessarily need to retake, as you have a good shot at admittance with your current numbers. However, since you mentioned that the games section is what killed you, I highly suggest a retake since that is the easiest section to improve on. A couple more points and you could be in at H/S.PRinNYC wrote:Assuming scholarship money isn't an issue, would you suggest retaking the LSAT? Like I said, I'm not opposed to retaking the test but I'd obviously rather avoid the stress of taking it again if I can comfortably get in with my original score.
If you score lower they will just disregard itPRinNYC wrote:Thanks for the advice guys, I think I probably will retake the LSAT in October then. I guess I just have this nightmare that somehow I'll do worse and blow my chances, but as long as I prepare even minimally that hopefully shouldn't happen.
Definitely retake games. They're so learnable. I went from -13 on games in my first LSAT (half assed preparation) to -0 on this last one (pretty intense preparation). I know it sucks, but you'll be grateful on the back end.PRinNYC wrote:I'm of Puerto Rican descent and was born and raised in the city. I went to California for undergrad but I really want to come back to NY for law school and, eventually, to practice.
So far I've resisted the temptation to make one of these threads, but I really want to know where I stand.
NYU and Columbia are my dream schools and I'd love to hear how someone with my stats might fare this admissions cycle.
Here's where I stand:
3.9 GPA ( could potentially be slightly higher, depending on how/if they count my study abroad grades)
167 LSAT (Ithe logic games really killed me, I only had time for half and put b for the rest of them. I was pting Slightly higher than this and I'm not opposed to taking it again especially because I hadn't prepped overly much when I look it in June).
Softs: Really Bad (sailing club and frat). What if anything should I do to address this?
Letters of Rec: I've heard at least one is excellent, but I'm not sure how much they are a factor.
If you don't mind my asking, how did you prep for them? I signed up for the October administration and I feel really comfortable with the logical reasoning and reading comprehension at this point, so is like to devote the next month or so to preparing for the games. I'm just not sure what the best strategy is. Just do a lot of practice tests?Dcc617 wrote:Definitely retake games. They're so learnable. I went from -13 on games in my first LSAT (half assed preparation) to -0 on this last one (pretty intense preparation). I know it sucks, but you'll be grateful on the back end.PRinNYC wrote:I'm of Puerto Rican descent and was born and raised in the city. I went to California for undergrad but I really want to come back to NY for law school and, eventually, to practice.
So far I've resisted the temptation to make one of these threads, but I really want to know where I stand.
NYU and Columbia are my dream schools and I'd love to hear how someone with my stats might fare this admissions cycle.
Here's where I stand:
3.9 GPA ( could potentially be slightly higher, depending on how/if they count my study abroad grades)
167 LSAT (Ithe logic games really killed me, I only had time for half and put b for the rest of them. I was pting Slightly higher than this and I'm not opposed to taking it again especially because I hadn't prepped overly much when I look it in June).
Softs: Really Bad (sailing club and frat). What if anything should I do to address this?
Letters of Rec: I've heard at least one is excellent, but I'm not sure how much they are a factor.
So I went and signed up for blueprint's online course, which I could afford because I have a full time job. But I feel like any prep that teaches and focuses on strategies would be fine.PRinNYC wrote:If you don't mind my asking, how did you prep for them? I signed up for the October administration and I feel really comfortable with the logical reasoning and reading comprehension at this point, so is like to devote the next month or so to preparing for the games. I'm just not sure what the best strategy is. Just do a lot of practice tests?Dcc617 wrote:Definitely retake games. They're so learnable. I went from -13 on games in my first LSAT (half assed preparation) to -0 on this last one (pretty intense preparation). I know it sucks, but you'll be grateful on the back end.PRinNYC wrote:I'm of Puerto Rican descent and was born and raised in the city. I went to California for undergrad but I really want to come back to NY for law school and, eventually, to practice.
So far I've resisted the temptation to make one of these threads, but I really want to know where I stand.
NYU and Columbia are my dream schools and I'd love to hear how someone with my stats might fare this admissions cycle.
Here's where I stand:
3.9 GPA ( could potentially be slightly higher, depending on how/if they count my study abroad grades)
167 LSAT (Ithe logic games really killed me, I only had time for half and put b for the rest of them. I was pting Slightly higher than this and I'm not opposed to taking it again especially because I hadn't prepped overly much when I look it in June).
Softs: Really Bad (sailing club and frat). What if anything should I do to address this?
Letters of Rec: I've heard at least one is excellent, but I'm not sure how much they are a factor.
Dcc617 wrote:So I went and signed up for blueprint's online course, which I could afford because I have a full time job. But I feel like any prep that teaches and focuses on strategies would be fine.PRinNYC wrote:If you don't mind my asking, how did you prep for them? I signed up for the October administration and I feel really comfortable with the logical reasoning and reading comprehension at this point, so is like to devote the next month or so to preparing for the games. I'm just not sure what the best strategy is. Just do a lot of practice tests?Dcc617 wrote:Definitely retake games. They're so learnable. I went from -13 on games in my first LSAT (half assed preparation) to -0 on this last one (pretty intense preparation). I know it sucks, but you'll be grateful on the back end.PRinNYC wrote:I'm of Puerto Rican descent and was born and raised in the city. I went to California for undergrad but I really want to come back to NY for law school and, eventually, to practice.
So far I've resisted the temptation to make one of these threads, but I really want to know where I stand.
NYU and Columbia are my dream schools and I'd love to hear how someone with my stats might fare this admissions cycle.
Here's where I stand:
3.9 GPA ( could potentially be slightly higher, depending on how/if they count my study abroad grades)
167 LSAT (Ithe logic games really killed me, I only had time for half and put b for the rest of them. I was pting Slightly higher than this and I'm not opposed to taking it again especially because I hadn't prepped overly much when I look it in June).
Softs: Really Bad (sailing club and frat). What if anything should I do to address this?
Letters of Rec: I've heard at least one is excellent, but I'm not sure how much they are a factor.
I didn't realize how much easier games were when you use an established set of symbols and processes. I got a lot better once I learned how to properly diagram and run through scenarios.
Besides that, practice. I saw a huge improvement quickly, then I stalled, then after a little bit longer it clicked again and I started rocking them.
In short, get hooked up on a system and practice it. Don't try to invent the wheel yourself. If you're smart enough for a 167 then you're smart enough to crush games.
Good luck!
EDIT: I'm bad at sentences the first time.