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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:08 pm
by Wcwhyte
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Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:18 pm
by Kimikho

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:20 pm
by Rigo
Egregious anti-NYU trolling.

& sure, you have a shot. Your softs don't seem impressive enough for YS, and you're only at the 25% LSAT for Harvard and Columbia. Chicago loves high GPA's and you're at their LSAT median so put together a great application and that will be your most likely acceptance of the 5.
You're definitely good for the other T14's, save Berk's black box.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:24 pm
by Wcwhyte
I've seen that, I posted because I was hoping for more feedback other than a very limited sample size of about 5-6 people for each top 5 law school in my range with mixed results.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:26 pm
by Wcwhyte
Dirigo wrote:Egregious anti-NYU trolling.

& sure, you have a shot. Your softs don't seem impressive enough for YS, and you're only at the 25% LSAT for Harvard and Columbia. Chicago loves high GPA's and you're at their LSAT median so put together a great application and that will be your most likely acceptance of the 5.
You're definitely good for the other T14's, save Berk's black box.
Berk was only school ranked 6-14 I didn't get a waiver fee from which I was always curious about.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:27 pm
by Hand
Wcwhyte wrote:
I've seen that, I posted because I was hoping for more feedback other than a very limited sample size of about 5-6 people for each top 5 law school in my range with mixed results.
nobody here has anything useful to say beyond what these numbers can tell you.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:28 pm
by hillz
Wcwhyte wrote:
Dirigo wrote:Egregious anti-NYU trolling.

& sure, you have a shot. Your softs don't seem impressive enough for YS, and you're only at the 25% LSAT for Harvard and Columbia. Chicago loves high GPA's and you're at their LSAT median so put together a great application and that will be your most likely acceptance of the 5.
You're definitely good for the other T14's, save Berk's black box.
Berk was only school ranked 6-14 I didn't get a waiver fee from which I was always curious about.
They don't give them out. Only for need based and then service (like TFA), I believe.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:28 pm
by Tiago Splitter
All anyone will tell you is what they see on myLSN. When the cycle is over you'll probably be better off taking a full ride from a school ranked lower than 5, but apply everywhere and see what happens.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:29 pm
by Rhymes With Wolf
Wcwhyte wrote:
I've seen that, I posted because I was hoping for more feedback other than a very limited sample size of about 5-6 people for each top 5 law school in my range with mixed results.
Broaden your search parameters? You could always refine the search based on the percentiles, one school at a time, or just ballpark it and say 3.97-4.0 (at/above all 75ths), 170-171 LSAT (not enough of a range to push you over any percentile threshold). I'm seeing a lot more than 5 or 6.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:32 pm
by Wcwhyte
Rhymes With Wolf wrote:
Wcwhyte wrote:
I've seen that, I posted because I was hoping for more feedback other than a very limited sample size of about 5-6 people for each top 5 law school in my range with mixed results.
Broaden your search parameters? You could always refine the search based on the percentiles, one school at a time, or just ballpark it and say 3.97-4.0 (at/above all 75ths), 170-171 LSAT (not enough of a range to push you over any percentile threshold). I'm seeing a lot more than 5 or 6.
All I have is this currently:

AC WA RE %
1. Yale 3 0 10 23%
2. Harvard 3 2 1 50%
2. Stanford 2 2 1 40%
4. Chicago 3 2 0 60%
4. Columbia 2 3 0 40%

So I'll definitely try a larger range like you suggested

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:07 am
by Kratos
Wcwhyte wrote:
Rhymes With Wolf wrote:
Wcwhyte wrote:
I've seen that, I posted because I was hoping for more feedback other than a very limited sample size of about 5-6 people for each top 5 law school in my range with mixed results.
Broaden your search parameters? You could always refine the search based on the percentiles, one school at a time, or just ballpark it and say 3.97-4.0 (at/above all 75ths), 170-171 LSAT (not enough of a range to push you over any percentile threshold). I'm seeing a lot more than 5 or 6.
All I have is this currently:

AC WA RE %
1. Yale 3 0 10 23%
2. Harvard 3 2 1 50%
2. Stanford 2 2 1 40%
4. Chicago 3 2 0 60%
4. Columbia 2 3 0 40%

So I'll definitely try a larger range like you suggested
What difference do your chances actually make? Just apply to all the schools in the T14 or T20 or wherever you want to go and see how the chips fall.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:09 am
by 03152016
egregious

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:12 am
by 03152016
i'd say you're a shoe in for top 8
might have better odds at money from top 11 tho

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 3:21 am
by EricHosmer
Wcwhyte wrote:I have a very competitive resume I believe (accounting internship, teaching assistant, large amount of community service and extracurriculars), but not anything super overwhelming and no research or published writing (outside of various sports journalism which doesn't really count).
Just so you know for the future, that is not a "very competitive resume." It's average, and certainly below average when compared to people with legitimate work experience.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:25 am
by malleus discentium
1. "Top 5" is not a thing.
2. Your resume is not competitive. It's not bad, but it's not competitive.
3. Take a year off before matriculating.
4. There is no reason myLSN isn't going to be representative. If there is insufficient data there, we're not magically going to know what to tell you.
5. Retake.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:51 am
by BigZuck
Retake the LSAT if you want to get into a T5. Your softs probably aren't competitive for Stanford and Yale but you could probably snag Harvard and maybe solid money at C and C if you squeeze out a few more points.

(lol sucks to suck NYU)

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:01 pm
by Kimikho
BigZuck wrote:Retake the LSAT if you want to get into a T5. Your softs probably aren't competitive for Stanford and Yale but you could probably snag Harvard and maybe solid money at C and C if you squeeze out a few more points.

(lol sucks to suck NYU)
Softs are probably competitive for SLS off the waitlist.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:26 pm
by BigZuck
Kimikho wrote:
BigZuck wrote:Retake the LSAT if you want to get into a T5. Your softs probably aren't competitive for Stanford and Yale but you could probably snag Harvard and maybe solid money at C and C if you squeeze out a few more points.

(lol sucks to suck NYU)
Softs are probably competitive for SLS off the waitlist.
You would know better than I would. I was thinking S is definitely out without a high 170s score just because these sound like pretty generic softs for a T20ish school, let alone HYS. But I defer to you.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:28 pm
by Kimikho
BigZuck wrote:
Kimikho wrote:
BigZuck wrote:Retake the LSAT if you want to get into a T5. Your softs probably aren't competitive for Stanford and Yale but you could probably snag Harvard and maybe solid money at C and C if you squeeze out a few more points.

(lol sucks to suck NYU)
Softs are probably competitive for SLS off the waitlist.
You would know better than I would. I was thinking S is definitely out without a high 170s score just because these sound like pretty generic softs for a T20ish school, let alone HYS. But I defer to you.
Yeah, this is just based off of experience and could change year to year.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:58 pm
by Mack.Hambleton
it's 2 point below their median since they raised it to 172 this year so idk

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:06 am
by MattM
i see a retake if OP wants to go to T5.

a 172 could open up more doors especially at the top

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:55 pm
by 03152016
MattM wrote:i see a retake if OP wants to go to T5.

a 172 could open up more doors especially at the top
:roll:

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:05 pm
by BigZuck
BigZuck wrote:lol sucks to suck NYU
+1

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 11:41 pm
by Sls17
Sameish numbers, sameish resume, K-JD, I got in everywhere. I go to SLS. I'm not totally sure what to attribute that to (mere luck? a killer LoR? maybe my personal statement?) but here I am.

So, yes, I'd predict you have a fair chance, just based on personal experience. Feel free to PM.

Re: 170 LSAT/4.0 GPA Chances at Top 5?

Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:00 am
by BigZuck
Sls17 wrote:Sameish numbers, sameish resume, K-JD, I got in everywhere. I go to SLS. I'm not totally sure what to attribute that to (mere luck? a killer LoR? maybe my personal statement?) but here I am.

So, yes, I'd predict you have a fair chance, just based on personal experience. Feel free to PM.
URM maybe?