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3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:48 pm
by tfarunner
Just curious what my chances are at T-14 (dream being Columbia or Harvard) with a 3.87 from a large state school and a 167 LSAT. Two double majors, phi beta kappa, division I XC/Track, and two years in Teach for America.
Also, not sure how relevant geographic diversity is, but I come from a very rural southern community (like 2,000 people). Not sure if that helps, but may contribute to diversity.
Also, non-URM.
Any thoughts?
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:50 pm
by Hand
retake
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:51 pm
by tfarunner
Aware re-take is probably going to produce the best ROI, but I am just curious what it would be otherwise.
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:53 pm
by BillPackets
Maybe in at Cornell n GULC no way Columbia or H
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 6:56 pm
by Colonel_funkadunk
Come on guys what about the phi kappa beta bump @ Columbia???
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:16 pm
by 03152016
out at h, out at c
chances look best at lower t14
money situation looks pretty grim though
so i hope you're rich
with a retake and a 4 or 5 point bump, you could put just about every school in play
and see $$$ at multiple t14s
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:21 pm
by tfarunner
So with 4-5 points you think Harvard or Columbia would be within reach?
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:22 pm
by BillPackets
Have u ever been on mylsn.info or lawschoolnumbers.com or looked up the medians for the schools you want to attend
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:24 pm
by tfarunner
Of course I have been to both of those sites and looked up both of those numbers. I was more interested in how the softs play into it, or what they would do to the chances?
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:24 pm
by Hand
tfarunner wrote:Of course I have been to both of those sites and looked up both of those numbers. I was more interested in how the softs play into it, or what they would do to the chances?
in general, very little
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:26 pm
by EricHosmer
Here's what mylsn.info says:
3.8-3.94 + 166-168: H 0%, C 0%
3.8-3.94 + 171-173: H 54%, C 81%
Retake.
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:30 pm
by 03152016
tfarunner wrote:So with 4-5 points you think Harvard or Columbia would be within reach?
yup
tfarunner wrote:Of course I have been to both of those sites and looked up both of those numbers. I was more interested in how the softs play into it, or what they would do to the chances?
little
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 7:30 pm
by BillPackets
hereisonehand wrote:tfarunner wrote:Of course I have been to both of those sites and looked up both of those numbers. I was more interested in how the softs play into it, or what they would do to the chances?
in general, very little
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:32 am
by tfarunner
Really, very little? I have heard mixed reviews on the soft value of TFA?
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:37 am
by Mal Reynolds
tfarunner wrote:Really, very little? I have heard mixed reviews on the soft value of TFA?
Idiot, look at law school numbers. You are not a special snowflake.
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:44 am
by BigZuck
It's insane to me that you would put in all that hard work but then be too lazy/afraid to squeeze a few more points out of the LSAT.
Your softs aren't going to help you punch above your numbers. So if you aren't happy with what your numbers will get you, you need to change your numbers.
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:24 pm
by tfarunner
Not too lazy, nor did I say I would not re-take. I was simply curious what weight that held. I have also looked at law school numbers... as the comments of idiocy, asking a question and looking at said site are not mutually exclusive.
Thanks for the help.
Re: 3.87/167 chances at T-14
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 12:44 pm
by PrideandGlory1776
Virtual lock at Georgetown & Cornell