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Should I ed Upenn or Chicago?

Just bombed retake.

If you're financing with loans, don't ED anywhere.
And consider another retake if you aren't maxed out.

Dirigo wrote:If you're financing with loans, don't ED anywhere.
And consider another retake if you aren't maxed out.

Not having financing problems. Trying to go to the best school.

I don't think I will take it again. Tried everything for this and was having mentality problems during the test.

Any suggestions?

You need to retake. It sucks, I know, but you need to do it.

With a 4.0+ and a 170 you can go wherever you want, and will get substantial $$ at most of the T14. Trust me, it's worth it.

minnbills wrote:You need to retake. It sucks, I know, but you need to do it.

With a 4.0+ and a 170 you can go wherever you want, and will get substantial $$ at most of the T14. Trust me, it's worth it.

(( Can't really wait for another cycle and I really don't think I can do it again. I'll just forget about the LSAT and swallow my 166.

If you really insist on not retaking, I would still apply RD unless you have an absolute preference. "The best school I can get" isn't a preference. I think multiple schools will bite because of your in range LSAT and perfect GPA.

Dirigo wrote:If you really insist on not retaking, I would still apply RD unless you have an absolute preference. "The best school I can get" isn't a preference. I think multiple schools will bite because of your in range LSAT and perfect GPA.

Chicago says that will consider scholarship for Ed/non-ED indifferently. I don't know.

Sorry I understand that I will be in a way better situation if I retake, and both of you are thinking on my behalf! I really appreciate that.

but I'm starting to have confidence issues because of these 2 takes so I don't really want to do it again. It might destroy me.

Again, I really appreciate you guys. I'm trying to maximize the outcome given the situation right now

Fighttotheend wrote: Chicago says that will consider scholarship for Ed/non-ED indifferently. I don't know.

I wouldn't count on a scholarship at any T14 with your LSAT, unfortunately.

Dirigo wrote:

Fighttotheend wrote: Chicago says that will consider scholarship for Ed/non-ED indifferently. I don't know.

I wouldn't count on a scholarship at any T14 with your LSAT, unfortunately.

Makes sense. Should I ED Chicago or Penn? Any thoughts?

I already said neither.

You'll get T10 bites without EDing, I think, and no money anywhere.

You should retake.

What are your goals?
I'd apply Chicago on down and consider strong regionals where you'll be in the running for really good scholly money. Even if you're poo-pooing the idea of non-T14, it doesn't hurt to apply and have options.

Fighttotheend wrote:

minnbills wrote:You need to retake. It sucks, I know, but you need to do it.

With a 4.0+ and a 170 you can go wherever you want, and will get substantial $$ at most of the T14. Trust me, it's worth it.

(( Can't really wait for another cycle and I really don't think I can do it again. I'll just forget about the LSAT and swallow my 166.

How exactly would a retake require you to wait another cycle? Study for 8-10 weeks and take in December. Get above a 170. Profit.

I mean if I apply without ED I might at best get to Chicago or Penn? (maybe? or get rejected from both).

It doesnt hurt to apply for an ED if I dont get $$ anyway

any thoughts?

SFSpartan wrote:

Fighttotheend wrote:

minnbills wrote:You need to retake. It sucks, I know, but you need to do it.

With a 4.0+ and a 170 you can go wherever you want, and will get substantial $$ at most of the T14. Trust me, it's worth it.

(( Can't really wait for another cycle and I really don't think I can do it again. I'll just forget about the LSAT and swallow my 166.

How exactly would a retake require you to wait another cycle? Study for 8-10 weeks and take in December. Get above a 170. Profit.

I can't... I give up on LSAT,

Dirigo wrote:What are your goals?
I'd apply Chicago on down and consider strong regionals where you'll be in the running for really good scholly money. Even if you're poo-pooing the idea of non-T14, it doesn't hurt to apply and have options.

My goal would be Chicago or Penn atm. Given my incapability on LSAT. Those are the best result for a loser like me.

I'm thinking about applying UM UVA Berkeley for RD and maybe one of the schools fomr T10-T14

Why are you obsessed with Chicago and Penn?
Are you a Chicagoan or Philadelphian who must stay for law school?

Penn's 25% is 164.
Chicago's 25% is 166.
You're over 75% GPA at both.
Don't screw up your PS, and I think you can possibly snag both. Assume sticker though.

ED closes off your options. Unless you affirmatively answer the second question I posed, ED doesn't seem prudent.

Dirigo wrote:Why are you obsessed with Chicago and Penn?
Are you a Chicagoan or Philadelphian who must stay for law school?

Penn's 25% is 164.
Chicago's 25% is 166.
You're over 75% GPA at both.
Don't screw up your PS, and I think you can possibly snag both. Assume sticker though.

ED closes off your options. Unless you affirmatively answer the second question I posed, ED doesn't seem prudent.

From all those probability calculators my chances are really low. The reason I keep talking about these 2 is that I have no chance at all to get into T4 and NYU is about the same as Chi and Penn but more expensive. I just don't think merely above 25% is a good sign so if I can get one of these 2 for sure I would be happy. Given that I got no $$ from T14.

Fighttotheend wrote: My goal would be Chicago or Penn atm. Given my incapability on LSAT. Those are the best result for a loser like me.

I'm thinking about applying UM UVA Berkeley for RD and maybe one of the schools fomr T10-T14

You're not a loser. You have a stellar GPA and a decent LSAT.

By goals I meant career/life goals, not admissions goals.
The fact that you're considering schools other than Chicago and Penn means you shouldn't ED. The more options, the merrier.
And don't close yourself off. Apply to ALL the schools from T10-T14. Cornell has the same BL+FC placement as Chicago and Penn, and you're very competitive for Cornell.
Also, WUSTL could give you really good money. Also consider Texas. You're not correctly thinking about your admissions strategy. You will have good options, so snap out of your desperate mindset that is compelling you to ED.

Dirigo wrote:

Fighttotheend wrote: My goal would be Chicago or Penn atm. Given my incapability on LSAT. Those are the best result for a loser like me.

I'm thinking about applying UM UVA Berkeley for RD and maybe one of the schools fomr T10-T14

You're not a loser. You have a stellar GPA and a decent LSAT.

By goals I meant career/life goals, not admissions goals.
The fact that you're considering schools other than Chicago and Penn means you shouldn't ED. The more options, the merrier.
And don't close yourself off. Apply to ALL the schools from T10-T14. Cornell has the same BL+FC placement as Chicago and Penn, and you're very competitive for Cornell.
Also, WUSTL could give you really good money. Also consider Texas. You're not correctly thinking about your admissions strategy. You will have good options, so snap out of your desperate mindset that is compelling you to ED.

Honestly I'd prefer to go to a T10 school, and I'd like to go to a big firm to be a lawyer.

Sorry I'm really really frustrated today..

No worries. I've said all I need to say.
Best of luck!

Dirigo wrote:No worries. I've said all I need to say.
Best of luck!

Thanks man!

I feel like money is never an issue for people that post here.

man these rich kids
must be nice

Brut wrote:man these rich kids
must be nice

I can't decide whether to take them seriously. Your parents would have to be pretty damn well off for +$250,000 to mean essentially nothing.

Although, I do feel like I'm surrounded by a bunch of spoiled little shits at school.