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Asian so not URM, below both medians so I know chances aren't very good, but was wondering if there was anyone who got in with similar numbers. I'm retaking in Sept, just wondering incase I don't improve

why no retake

you've been on the boards a while now
you know how this is going to end

Brut wrote:why no retake

you've been on the boards a while now
you know how this is going to end

I'm retaking in Sept. Just wanted to know incase I don't improve.

should-i-do-it wrote:

Brut wrote:why no retake

you've been on the boards a while now
you know how this is going to end

I'm retaking in Sept. Just wanted to know incase I don't improve.

If you don't improve, you probably shouldn't go to law school. Depending on what your goals are.

You may get into ND sticker, but have a shot at Illinois with $.

I'm assuming you know that Notre Dame sticker puts you a quarter of a million in debt.

pancakes3 wrote:I'm assuming you know that Notre Dame sticker puts you a quarter of a million in debt.

This. I may be new, but I'm on a mission against sticker. 200k-300k in debt is unfathomable.

The answer to your question is no you should not.

Don't worry bros, I won't have debt. But even then, I would never pay that much to go to law school. I was just wondering.

I'm assuming you know that Notre Dame at sticker takes a quarter of a million dollars out of your parents retirement.

pancakes3 wrote:I'm assuming you know that Notre Dame at sticker takes a quarter of a million dollars out of your parents retirement.

Don't worry about it bro. I just made the thread to see what my chances of getting in are. If I get in and want to get input on how smart/stupid it would be to go at whatever the cost would be, I'll make another thread. Thanks for expressing your concern though, I'll let my parents know.

Low chances.

But even if you did, no $$$. So a poor decision regardless.

ymmv wrote:

should-i-do-it wrote:

Brut wrote:why no retake

you've been on the boards a while now
you know how this is going to end

I'm retaking in Sept. Just wanted to know incase I don't improve.

If you don't improve, you probably shouldn't go to law school. Depending on what your goals are.

This. If you don't improve on the lsat, you probably shouldn't go to law school.

Illinois gives you essentially the same job outlook and prestige for a lot less $$$. You should look into it, especially if you're thinking about practicing in Chicago/Midwest.

bugsy33 wrote:Illinois gives you essentially the same job outlook and prestige for a lot less $$$. You should look into it, especially if you're thinking about practicing in Chicago/Midwest.

Thanks for the advise bro. I'll be applying there too.

bugsy33 wrote:Illinois gives you essentially the same job outlook and prestige for a lot less $$$. You should look into it, especially if you're thinking about practicing in Chicago/Midwest.

If OP is concerned about prestige, they need to do a hell of a lot better than a 162. Respectability ~= Prestige.

As others have said OP, going to ND with such stats, if you get in, is a very bad idea unless you are supremely wealthy (in which case there are probably better things you could do with your time).

Notre Dame Law at sticker gives you a ten-year repayment plan monthly payment of around $3,000 a month. What is the likelihood that attending Notre Dame will give you accessibility to jobs that will allow you to afford that kind of payment? The answer to this question should guide your decision to attend.

UIUC's job placement is very similar to Notre Dame's. Check out Law School Transparency. 2011 and 2012 were rough years for UIUC but 2013 showed signs of healthy improvement. I have many friends that attend, or have attended UIUC law, having graduated within the last couple years. From what they've told me about the school's tuition discount/"scholarship" generosity, you'd be in with some money and similar job accessibility that Notre Dame Law's graduates have.

Is there anything about Notre Dame that strongly draws you to want to attend? If so, retake the LSAT and set a high target score.

Don't worry bro's, I'd never go to ND at sticker.

Cool.

For what it's worth, all of my UIUC peeps have told me the school is very friendly to splitters in terms of getting in with money. Now rock that LSAT.

should-i-do-it wrote:Don't worry bro's, I'd never go to ND at sticker.

Then what's the point of this thread? If you don't improve your LSAT, you're a waitlist candidate at best -- sticker is all you're going to get.

Will_McAvoy wrote:

should-i-do-it wrote:Don't worry bro's, I'd never go to ND at sticker.

Then what's the point of this thread? If you don't improve your LSAT, you're a waitlist candidate at best -- sticker is all you're going to get.

Like I said earlier, that's all I was trying to get input on, if I'd get in. Take it easy bro, it's not like I'm asking which TTT I should attend if I want to do international environmental law.

should-i-do-it wrote:

Will_McAvoy wrote:

should-i-do-it wrote:Don't worry bro's, I'd never go to ND at sticker.

Then what's the point of this thread? If you don't improve your LSAT, you're a waitlist candidate at best -- sticker is all you're going to get.

Like I said earlier, that's all I was trying to get input on, if I'd get in. Take it easy bro, it's not like I'm asking which TTT I should attend if I want to do international environmental law.

You forgot comparative sports law.

To answer the original question: you'll have a very hard time getting in for a price that is remotely sane.

should-i-do-it wrote:

Will_McAvoy wrote:

should-i-do-it wrote:Don't worry bro's, I'd never go to ND at sticker.

Then what's the point of this thread? If you don't improve your LSAT, you're a waitlist candidate at best -- sticker is all you're going to get.

Like I said earlier, that's all I was trying to get input on, if I'd get in. Take it easy bro, it's not like I'm asking which TTT I should attend if I want to do international environmental law.

Notre Dame near sticker is a TTT. Not trying to be a dick; it's the same situation at my school. Information on getting in is irrelevant to you -- retake.

Sounds like OP wishes he could ctrl-z this thread.

you will improve. retake.