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Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:33 pm
by GMasters5
I've seen bits and pieces of info about full scholarships in the T14, but my question is regarding Cornell and NU. I know that an ED acceptance at NU leads to a full scholarship, but I'm wondering what the general consensus is to getting that scholarship? What GPA/LSAT combo would make me competitive for the NU scholarship or is it work experience that sets you apart there? Also, I haven't seen much about Cornell's scholarships, so does anyone know if they have a full scholarship program? If so, what numbers generally warrant a full scholarship? If not, what numbers usually warrant a substantial scholarship?

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:38 pm
by schmooky
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Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:41 pm
by PrideandGlory1776
2 people w/ 168/3.8's got em this year so if you got 168+ AND 3.8+ you should be good to go

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:42 pm
by GMasters5
schmooky wrote:You can go to cornell.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants. Click the column where it says "$$$" to sort by scholarship. For NU go to the same site but replace cornell w/ nu.


Cool thanks!

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:44 pm
by GMasters5
PrideandGlory1776 wrote:2 people w/ 168/3.8's got em this year so if you got 168+ AND 3.8+ you should be good to go

M gpa will most likely be around 3.8 when I'm applying so I'll be right in the running hopefully! Do they just roll you over to RD if they don't want to accept you ED?

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:03 pm
by bombaysippin
GMasters5 wrote:
PrideandGlory1776 wrote:2 people w/ 168/3.8's got em this year so if you got 168+ AND 3.8+ you should be good to go

M gpa will most likely be around 3.8 when I'm applying so I'll be right in the running hopefully! Do they just roll you over to RD if they don't want to accept you ED?
yes

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:25 pm
by somuchwaiting
GMasters5 wrote:I've seen bits and pieces of info about full scholarships in the T14, but my question is regarding Cornell and NU. I know that an ED acceptance at NU leads to a full scholarship, but I'm wondering what the general consensus is to getting that scholarship?
Keep in mind that while NU guaranteed ED scholarships are $150,000, that is not actually full tuition. I know it's still substantial, but NU granted RD applicants scholarships of $165,000 this year.

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:31 pm
by nightcheese
somuchwaiting wrote:
GMasters5 wrote:I've seen bits and pieces of info about full scholarships in the T14, but my question is regarding Cornell and NU. I know that an ED acceptance at NU leads to a full scholarship, but I'm wondering what the general consensus is to getting that scholarship?
Keep in mind that while NU guaranteed ED scholarships are $150,000, that is not actually full tuition. I know it's still substantial, but NU granted RD applicants scholarships of $165,000 this year.
This.

Even if you get the $150k, you're still facing ~$81,000 at graduation. ($6k/year for tuition--which will increase each year--and $21k/year for living expenses.)

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:53 pm
by everything_bagel
nightcheese wrote:
somuchwaiting wrote:
GMasters5 wrote:I've seen bits and pieces of info about full scholarships in the T14, but my question is regarding Cornell and NU. I know that an ED acceptance at NU leads to a full scholarship, but I'm wondering what the general consensus is to getting that scholarship?
Keep in mind that while NU guaranteed ED scholarships are $150,000, that is not actually full tuition. I know it's still substantial, but NU granted RD applicants scholarships of $165,000 this year.
This.

Even if you get the $150k, you're still facing ~$81,000 at graduation. ($6k/year for tuition--which will increase each year--and $21k/year for living expenses.)
if it costs you $21k/yr to live in Chicago, you're doing it wrong.

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:57 pm
by Chrstgtr
everything_bagel wrote:
nightcheese wrote:
somuchwaiting wrote:
GMasters5 wrote:I've seen bits and pieces of info about full scholarships in the T14, but my question is regarding Cornell and NU. I know that an ED acceptance at NU leads to a full scholarship, but I'm wondering what the general consensus is to getting that scholarship?
Keep in mind that while NU guaranteed ED scholarships are $150,000, that is not actually full tuition. I know it's still substantial, but NU granted RD applicants scholarships of $165,000 this year.
This.

Even if you get the $150k, you're still facing ~$81,000 at graduation. ($6k/year for tuition--which will increase each year--and $21k/year for living expenses.)
if it costs you $21k/yr to live in Chicago, you're doing it wrong.
COA are also based on only a 9-month period (the time you're enrolled in classes. But the above poster is correct in that NU overestimates the COL especially when taking into account the 9-month time period it is based on.

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:05 am
by GMasters5
nightcheese wrote:
somuchwaiting wrote:
GMasters5 wrote:I've seen bits and pieces of info about full scholarships in the T14, but my question is regarding Cornell and NU. I know that an ED acceptance at NU leads to a full scholarship, but I'm wondering what the general consensus is to getting that scholarship?
Keep in mind that while NU guaranteed ED scholarships are $150,000, that is not actually full tuition. I know it's still substantial, but NU granted RD applicants scholarships of $165,000 this year.
This.

Even if you get the $150k, you're still facing ~$81,000 at graduation. ($6k/year for tuition--which will increase each year--and $21k/year for living expenses.)


Thanks, I hadn't looked at COL of living yet. Didn't some people get $175k this year?

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:23 am
by slexisl1024
GMasters5 wrote:
nightcheese wrote:
somuchwaiting wrote:
GMasters5 wrote:I've seen bits and pieces of info about full scholarships in the T14, but my question is regarding Cornell and NU. I know that an ED acceptance at NU leads to a full scholarship, but I'm wondering what the general consensus is to getting that scholarship?
Keep in mind that while NU guaranteed ED scholarships are $150,000, that is not actually full tuition. I know it's still substantial, but NU granted RD applicants scholarships of $165,000 this year.
This.

Even if you get the $150k, you're still facing ~$81,000 at graduation. ($6k/year for tuition--which will increase each year--and $21k/year for living expenses.)


Thanks, I hadn't looked at COL of living yet. Didn't some people get $175k this year?
Incoming NU student who was accepted Early Decision here. NU COL estimates are exaggerated significantly, and savings and/or family assistance means graduating with ~30k debt for many of us who are ED admits. NU did grant a few 165k scholarships but it seems to mostly be to folks with HYS or solid CCN numbers. I'm fairly certain the 175k scholarship and the 22x,xxx scholarship on LSN are inaccurate. I cannot be absolutely positive, but I have a hard time believing NU would pay above tuition to any incoming student, let alone students with LSAT scores and GPAs both below their 75%s. I suppose other factors (YLS level softs or work experience?) could be at play.
Northwestern with the ED scholarship is an excellent deal for anyone. You can get a very strong sense of your possible outcomes just by looking around here and LSN. If you would be ok with NU at a major discount over any of those (E.g., outside shot at H, $ at CCN etc.), ED is a good choice.

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:30 am
by GMasters5
Incoming NU student who was accepted Early Decision here. NU COL estimates are exaggerated significantly, and savings and/or family assistance means graduating with ~30k debt for many of us who are ED admits. NU did grant a few 165k scholarships but it seems to mostly be to folks with HYS or solid CCN numbers. I'm fairly certain the 175k scholarship and the 22x,xxx scholarship on LSN are inaccurate. I cannot be absolutely positive, but I have a hard time believing NU would pay above tuition to any incoming student, let alone students with LSAT scores and GPAs both below their 75%s. I suppose other factors (YLS level softs or work experience?) could be at play.
Northwestern with the ED scholarship is an excellent deal for anyone. You can get a very strong sense of your possible outcomes just by looking around here and LSN. If you would be ok with NU at a major discount over any of those (E.g., outside shot at H, $ at CCN etc.), ED is a good choice.[/quote][/quote]




Cool thanks! It seems hard to pass up, and I'm seriously considering doing it. The thing is that I don't have any significant work experience and I'm K-JD so I feel like it would count me out, since NU prides themselves on WE. Is that accurate or could my numbers overcome their bias?

Re: Full scholarships at Cornell/NU

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:33 am
by slexisl1024
GMasters5 wrote:Incoming NU student who was accepted Early Decision here. NU COL estimates are exaggerated significantly, and savings and/or family assistance means graduating with ~30k debt for many of us who are ED admits. NU did grant a few 165k scholarships but it seems to mostly be to folks with HYS or solid CCN numbers. I'm fairly certain the 175k scholarship and the 22x,xxx scholarship on LSN are inaccurate. I cannot be absolutely positive, but I have a hard time believing NU would pay above tuition to any incoming student, let alone students with LSAT scores and GPAs both below their 75%s. I suppose other factors (YLS level softs or work experience?) could be at play.
Northwestern with the ED scholarship is an excellent deal for anyone. You can get a very strong sense of your possible outcomes just by looking around here and LSN. If you would be ok with NU at a major discount over any of those (E.g., outside shot at H, $ at CCN etc.), ED is a good choice.
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Cool thanks! It seems hard to pass up, and I'm seriously considering doing it. The thing is that I don't have any significant work experience and I'm K-JD so I feel like it would count me out, since NU prides themselves on WE. Is that accurate or could my numbers overcome their bias?[/quote]

Awesome question! I'm actually KJD and I know personally 2 other incoming 1Ls accepted under ED who were KJDs. I have some information regarding NU/Work Experience/#s/Being a KJD to share with you if you're interested. Just send me a pm.