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3.97 GPA, 160, strong ECs

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:37 am
by nseven
I studied hard for 3 months and practiced at 160-165. 3.97 GPA from a science undergraduate degree.
ECs: Awarded a fellowship, worked at a law firm, business developer for a large nonprofit, president/exec on school clubs and councils etc.

I know the common answer will be to retake, (which I might do) but what are the chances for a T 14 as it stands?

Re: 3.97 GPA, 160, strong ECs

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:42 am
by EricHosmer
A retake could be worth tens of thousands of dollars, and considering that you sounds fairly intelligent, you will likely best your score. Retake.

Re: 3.97 GPA, 160, strong ECs

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:04 am
by Ti Malice
nseven wrote: I know the common answer will be to retake, (which I might do) but what are the chances for a T 14 as it stands?
Very low. Someone with a 3.97/161 got into UVA at sticker this cycle, so I suppose you have a shot there (may as well apply ED). But you would be admitted at the cost of nearly $300K of debt at the start of repayment.

If you can swing a 3.97 in a science major, I have to think you can do much better on the LSAT, giving yourself options of both better schools and six-figure scholarship awards. What did your study regimen look like?

Re: 3.97 GPA, 160, strong ECs

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:13 am
by BigZuck
Gotta retake bud.

You are seemingly a smart person, don't make a dumb decision and decide not to retake.

Also, your "ECs" aren't that strong, except for maybe the fellowship. Everything else is pretty standard for kids at top schools.

Just trying to help you be realistic here. Check out http://www.mylsn.info

Re: 3.97 GPA, 160, strong ECs

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:54 am
by nseven
Ti Malice wrote:
nseven wrote: I know the common answer will be to retake, (which I might do) but what are the chances for a T 14 as it stands?
Very low. Someone with a 3.97/161 got into UVA at sticker this cycle, so I suppose you have a shot there (may as well apply ED). But you would be admitted at the cost of nearly $300K of debt at the start of repayment.

If you can swing a 3.97 in a science major, I have to think you can do much better on the LSAT, giving yourself options of both better schools and six-figure scholarship awards. What did your study regimen look like?
Thanks for the input. My study regimen consisted of an online PowerScore course (going through all 3 PS books) and taking the past 30 tests from the official LSAT books. I was quite consistent with my studying, but I found that studying for the LSAT is entirely different than studying for science-based exams. Nonetheless, I am willing to commit a significant amount of time from now-October.

I'm open to any study suggestions/tips.

Re: 3.97 GPA, 160, strong ECs

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:13 pm
by EricHosmer
nseven wrote:
Ti Malice wrote:
nseven wrote: I know the common answer will be to retake, (which I might do) but what are the chances for a T 14 as it stands?
Very low. Someone with a 3.97/161 got into UVA at sticker this cycle, so I suppose you have a shot there (may as well apply ED). But you would be admitted at the cost of nearly $300K of debt at the start of repayment.

If you can swing a 3.97 in a science major, I have to think you can do much better on the LSAT, giving yourself options of both better schools and six-figure scholarship awards. What did your study regimen look like?
Thanks for the input. My study regimen consisted of an online PowerScore course (going through all 3 PS books) and taking the past 30 tests from the official LSAT books. I was quite consistent with my studying, but I found that studying for the LSAT is entirely different than studying for science-based exams. Nonetheless, I am willing to commit a significant amount of time from now-October.

I'm open to any study suggestions/tips.
LSAT Trainer for logical reasoning/reading comprehension and 7Sage for logic games.