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jdul34839 wrote: I originally planned on applying to 2014 cycle but didn't have enough time to properly study for the lsat.

Louis1127 wrote:

jdul34839 wrote: I originally planned on applying to 2014 cycle but didn't have enough time to properly study for the lsat.

Not to be a dick, but...

There are people on here who work 40-60 hour weeks with families that find time to study for the LSAT. Hell, some of them are in our current TLS study group right now.

The bright side is if you can score 160 without prepping adequately, you can probably score high enough to get some serious scholarship money at a school where you have a solid chance of getting a decent job if you were to rep adequately.

jdul34839 wrote:

Louis1127 wrote:

jdul34839 wrote: I originally planned on applying to 2014 cycle but didn't have enough time to properly study for the lsat.

Not to be a dick, but...

There are people on here who work 40-60 hour weeks with families that find time to study for the LSAT. Hell, some of them are in our current TLS study group right now.

The bright side is if you can score 160 without prepping adequately, you can probably score high enough to get some serious scholarship money at a school where you have a solid chance of getting a decent job if you were to rep adequately.

I have tremendous respect for tls'ers who work 40-60 hour weeks with families that find time to study for the LSAT.

Maybe I should retake?

Ti Malice wrote:Both the scattershot nature of your list of schools and the fact that many of the schools made your list at all show that you have a lot to learn about the law school application/admissions game. (Also, be aware that dual degree programs are a bad idea for the majority of aspiring lawyers.)

Don't take this as an insult -- everyone starts out knowing very little. Just stick around here with an open mind and a bit of a thick skin, and you will find advice that will help you avoid a potentially life-ruining decision.

The first thing you absolutely must do, as others have said, is give the LSAT the respect it deserves and retake after extremely thorough study and practice. Your LSAT score is far and away the most important part of your application and is thus the single biggest determinant of your future career options (since where you go to law school more or less sets the boundaries of your options). If you can score a 160 without proper study, there's no good reason for you to settle for anything under a 170.

By the way, URM or non-URM?

Mullens wrote:Why do you want to go to law school?

0830: Wake up in stately 16th Century hotel in Zurich. Kiss beautiful Russian model you met last night goodbye.

0930: Breakfast at cafe overlooking the clear waters of Lake Zurich. Read the Financial Times and chuckle about their shoddy reporting on a deal you headlined last week.

1000: Take high-speed train to Paris, fielding conference calls from several CEOs and bankers.

1100: Negotiate $13 billion merger between US company and European conglomerate. Everyone speaks English with a broken accent, of course, so you can understand all the documents and the negotiations.

1230: Lunch with other International Corporate Lawyers at International Corporate Lawyer Club, everyone, of course, speaking English with a broken accent.

1400: Fly to the Hague for some pro-bono work. By 1500, you've convicted a genocidal African dictator of every war crime imaginable. He curses you in broken English. A hundred survivors from the village he attacked gift your their ceremonial hunting horn. The chief's beautiful, Oxford educated daughter, who you've been working closely with, flashes you a flirtatious smile.

1730: Return to London office of International Corporate Law Firm. Exchange witty banter with secretary. Get dressed down by your curmudgeonly boss.

1900: High-stakes Baccarat game at Monte Carlo with head of European finance ministry. After beating him, he agrees to relax certain disclosure requirements for IPOs. Also he pays for champagne (in broken English) and you party with Russian model and African chief's daughter.

2300: Returning to hotel, concierge informs you of a call. Picking up, you hear "Mr. Corporate Lawyer, this is our fifth call. You've missed the last three payments on your student loans. If you'd like to discuss repayment options, you can contact me at 1-800-FANTASY."

You wake up in a cold sweat, and realize you have less than 20 minutes to get dressed, shower, and get to your document review job in a warehouse in New Jersey. Think about going back to law school for the "International Law LLM.

Mullens wrote:

0830: Wake up in stately 16th Century hotel in Zurich. Kiss beautiful Russian model you met last night goodbye.

0930: Breakfast at cafe overlooking the clear waters of Lake Zurich. Read the Financial Times and chuckle about their shoddy reporting on a deal you headlined last week.

1000: Take high-speed train to Paris, fielding conference calls from several CEOs and bankers.

1100: Negotiate $13 billion merger between US company and European conglomerate. Everyone speaks English with a broken accent, of course, so you can understand all the documents and the negotiations.

1230: Lunch with other International Corporate Lawyers at International Corporate Lawyer Club, everyone, of course, speaking English with a broken accent.

1400: Fly to the Hague for some pro-bono work. By 1500, you've convicted a genocidal African dictator of every war crime imaginable. He curses you in broken English. A hundred survivors from the village he attacked gift your their ceremonial hunting horn. The chief's beautiful, Oxford educated daughter, who you've been working closely with, flashes you a flirtatious smile.

1730: Return to London office of International Corporate Law Firm. Exchange witty banter with secretary. Get dressed down by your curmudgeonly boss.

1900: High-stakes Baccarat game at Monte Carlo with head of European finance ministry. After beating him, he agrees to relax certain disclosure requirements for IPOs. Also he pays for champagne (in broken English) and you party with Russian model and African chief's daughter.

2300: Returning to hotel, concierge informs you of a call. Picking up, you hear "Mr. Corporate Lawyer, this is our fifth call. You've missed the last three payments on your student loans. If you'd like to discuss repayment options, you can contact me at 1-800-FANTASY."

You wake up in a cold sweat, and realize you have less than 20 minutes to get dressed, shower, and get to your document review job in a warehouse in New Jersey. Think about going back to law school for the "International Law LLM.

Mullens wrote:What do you envision yourself doing in "International Relations/IR Theory?" Please inform me of what sort of jobs exist in the field and why you would even need a JD, as I clearly have no idea.

A. Nony Mouse wrote:The thing is, a huge number of people regularly show up here wanting to do "international law" (which, yes, not the same as IR), and don't actually know anything about what those jobs entail or how to get them. So unless you can explain what you actually want a JD for and what kinds of jobs you're trying for, it's going to be hard to advise you.