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Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:30 pm**

Can I have your GPA?

Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:37 pm**

humble brag? you should apply everywhere man.

Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:40 pm**

Chicago's full ride comes with a generous living stipend, which makes it probably the best financial possibility out there in the entire law school admissions game. If you put together a good application, you should have your choice of full rides in the T14 including the Ruby at Chicago, the Hamilton at Columbia, and the Vanderbilt at NYU plus many others. Your numbers are absolutely spectacular and I'd imagine more than one school will do everything in their power to get you to enroll. Best of luck and congratulations on what will be an awesome application cycle.

Edited because I am an idiot and can't read apparently.

Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:40 pm**

With those numbers, apply to Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, NYU.

Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:42 pm**

wingding wrote:With those numbers, apply to Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, NYU.

Outstanding UChi trolling. Two thumbs way up. Well done.

Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:05 pm**

You should go for a full ride at Chicago or Columbia, or Yale. Anything else is selling your numbers short.

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Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:21 pm**

blueberrycrumble wrote:. Also, I don't mean to be skeptical, but don't quite a few people apply with good numbers (ex: hundreds) considering tens of thousands of people take the LSAT every year?

Don't underestimate the fact that for every 100,000 people who take the LSAT each year, you did better than all but 200 of them. Also, unlike you, not all of those 200 have a GPA that's commensurate with their LSAT. The combination of a 3.97 and a 177 puts you up in pretty rare air, K-JD or not.

Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:23 pm**

blueberrycrumble wrote:
flawschoolkid wrote:You should go for a full ride at Chicago or Columbia, or Yale. Anything else is selling your numbers short.
I guess see post above. Aren't there quite a few applicants with good numbers? And also, I didn't know Yale even did scholarships? When I searched my stats on LSN, scholarships were $0 for Yale. I did see $ for Chicago and Columbia though.

Yeah HYS give no merit-based aid. It's all need-based.

Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:28 pm**

quijotesca1011 wrote:
blueberrycrumble wrote:
flawschoolkid wrote:You should go for a full ride at Chicago or Columbia, or Yale. Anything else is selling your numbers short.
I guess see post above. Aren't there quite a few applicants with good numbers? And also, I didn't know Yale even did scholarships? When I searched my stats on LSN, scholarships were $0 for Yale. I did see $ for Chicago and Columbia though.
Yeah HYS give no merit-based aid. It's all need-based.

Thats what I meant, yeah.

Law school is a big enough decision that you should take enough time off, or go through enough cycles, to make sure you get one of those options.

Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:33 pm**

Yes, tens of thousands of people take the LSAT every year. Very, very few of them score as high as you did. Mix that with your outstanding GPA and the number of people in your position is even smaller. Having said that, you are correct that massive scholarships from great schools are not necessarily going to just be handed to you. However, you are in an optimal starting position.

With regards to the domestic student vs foreign student dilemma, I highly doubt schools care either way when it comes to scholarship offers. If anything, they have more incentive to give you $$$ because foreign students can't get government loans (I think? Don't quote me on that). I will also recommend that you should negotiate with schools if you don't get the amount of money you want somewhere. I bet if you went to pretty much any school in the T14 and said "I really want to go here" they would make it work for you (except Georgetown was remarkably stingy from what I have witnessed and personally experienced). Also, the person who said you should go to Chicago or Columbia or Yale meant you should go to Chi or Col for free or just go to Yale. Yale doesn't give merit based scholarships.

I am assuming in my analysis that you will put together a good application in which you come across as likable and have a solid reason for wanting to pursue law. Obviously, if you come across like a total jackass then this all goes out the window. Just be smart in your apps and you will be fine.

Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:58 pm**

In another thread we're discussing how great numbers don't necessarily mean big scholarships or acceptances across the board (http://top-law-schools.com/forums/viewt ... 2&t=232245). You'll certainly get at least a couple amazing offers, but without good softs you might not get the scholarships you'd expect, and you'll need to watch out for yield protection (i.e., lower-ranked schools rejecting you before you can reject them and hurt their acceptance ratios).

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Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2014 4:27 pm**

What are your career goals? And what are your backup plans? How do you feel about working in biglaw? Where do you want to live? Where are you unwilling to live?

Its hard to even tell you where to apply without knowing this.

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:03 pm**

jk148706 wrote:I don't even

You are literally above median at every law school in the world, and your worried about yp and softs?

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:39 pm**

Speaking of softs, would you guys consider working at a law firm and being a student athlete, as well as serving a minor role in student government good softs? Like, I dont really get it ha. I feel like everyone's resume is huge and mine isn't nearly as big because im still at UG

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:40 pm**

choward014 wrote:Speaking of softs, would you guys consider working at a law firm and being a student athlete, as well as serving a minor role in student government good softs? Like, I dont really get it ha. I feel like everyone's resume is huge and mine isn't nearly as big because im still at UG

most people's resumes aren't that impressive. more importantly, work experience does not trump grades. Don't worry about it

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:35 pm**

choward014 wrote:Speaking of softs, would you guys consider working at a law firm and being a student athlete, as well as serving a minor role in student government good softs? Like, I dont really get it ha. I feel like everyone's resume is huge and mine isn't nearly as big because im still at UG

This is how I'd look at it based on my what I've read and heard from past applicants: On a 1 to 10 scale, those are like a 3-4. But softs will only hurt if they're a 1 or 2 and only help if they're a 9 or 10, so don't worry about it.

Posted: **Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:12 pm**

I guess the general consensus is to apply everywhere in the T14 - going to have to get a parental loan for that LOL (literally).

Blanket the T14.

With your numbers, you'll likely receive merit-based fee waivers at most of the T14. Especially if you follow the instructions laid out in ATL's law school admissions FAQ:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 2&t=131727

Fee Waivers
Basics & list:
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Q: Do they mean I have a better shot?
No. They just want to increase # of applicants so they can reject more people.

Q: How do you get them?
CRS on LSAC. Look around. You can also e-mail and ask for them. If you do, basic form:

Hello,

I am really interested in applying to XXX Law School and am writing to ask if could be considered for a merit-based fee waiver. My LSAT is 1XX, GPA is X.XX, and my LSAC # is #######.

Thanks,
Eager Applicant

Posted: **Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:16 pm**

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