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Unfortunately there's very few people on mylsn.info with my numbers. I'm trying to decide whether it's worthwhile throwing in an app to Yale. I applied to Harvard, since although unlikely there's an incredibly small chance I could get accepted now. Yale's floor doesn't seem to have come down as much as Harvard's though. Do I have any chance?

I'm non-URM.

I have nearly identical stats and got an interview at Harvard. I did not apply to Yale.

AdInfinitum wrote:Unfortunately there's very few people on mylsn.info with my numbers. I'm trying to decide whether it's worthwhile throwing in an app to Yale. I applied to Harvard, since although unlikely there's an incredibly small chance I could get accepted now. Yale's floor doesn't seem to have come down as much as Harvard's though. Do I have any chance?

I'm non-URM.

YLS is very unlikely, unless you have an extremely compelling explanation for that GPA. As in, you had a completely debilitating illness that tanked your grades for one semester, but you maintained a 4.0 every other semester.

How strong are your softs? Feel free to PM me.

I have a few friends at YLS and none of the people I know had less than a 3.7, URMs included. You can try- it might be compelling to them if you write a really good essay/ 250 and have a legitimate reason for your GPA. As the saying goes, you can't win the lottery unless you play. Still, and this is coming from someone who is applying with a GPA around yours and a much less impressive LSAT score, I'm not going to being searching for New Haven apartments in this lifetime.

Yale's low GPA this past year was a 3.13. http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/profile.htm

But obviously you're going to need a compelling application to get in with those kinds of numbers.

midwest17 wrote:Yale's low GPA this past year was a 3.13. http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/profile.htm

But obviously you're going to need a compelling application to get in with those kinds of numbers.

the info behind that link can't possibly be right. Yale admitted someone with a 152 LSAT? I don't care who you are. URM, 4.0+ GPA, you are not getting Yale with a 152 LSAT. Your application is laughed at all the way to the trash can.

daleearnhardt123 wrote:

midwest17 wrote:Yale's low GPA this past year was a 3.13. http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/profile.htm

But obviously you're going to need a compelling application to get in with those kinds of numbers.

the info behind that link can't possibly be right. Yale admitted someone with a 152 LSAT? I don't care who you are. URM, 4.0+ GPA, you are not getting Yale with a 152 LSAT. Your application is laughed at all the way to the trash can.

Well, that's coming directly from Yale, so they're either lying, haven't gotten around to fixing an error that I'm sure a billion people have pointed out, or it happened.

daleearnhardt123 wrote:

midwest17 wrote:Yale's low GPA this past year was a 3.13. http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/profile.htm

But obviously you're going to need a compelling application to get in with those kinds of numbers.

the info behind that link can't possibly be right. Yale admitted someone with a 152 LSAT? I don't care who you are. URM, 4.0+ GPA, you are not getting Yale with a 152 LSAT. Your application is laughed at all the way to the trash can.

Maybe it was a Rhodes or Marshall Scholar who is a bad standardized test-taker. I would guess that whoever that person was- and I would bet that Yale's materials aren't factually inaccurate- they were extraordinarily impressive in almost every other category YLS evaluates in order to make up for that score. Same goes for the person with the 3.13.

The 152 could have been an ex-presidents grandkid or something like that. I'm sure a few spots are left for thise situations.

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How much would that app even cost? Just do apply and pray bro.

LochnerMonster wrote:

AdInfinitum wrote:Unfortunately there's very few people on mylsn.info with my numbers. I'm trying to decide whether it's worthwhile throwing in an app to Yale. I applied to Harvard, since although unlikely there's an incredibly small chance I could get accepted now. Yale's floor doesn't seem to have come down as much as Harvard's though. Do I have any chance?

I'm non-URM.

YLS is very unlikely, unless you have an extremely compelling explanation for that GPA. As in, you had a completely debilitating illness that tanked your grades for one semester, but you maintained a 4.0 every other semester.

How strong are your softs? Feel free to PM me.

Unfortunately my softs are probably average/slightly above average (for a K-JD). I'm also not a ex-President's grandkid or a Rhodes Scholar =P.

Considering the debt I'll have regardless I might just throw in an application to say I tried. You guys seem to be saying Yale might to crazy stuff sometimes so maybe I'll win the lottery.

AdInfinitum wrote:

LochnerMonster wrote:

AdInfinitum wrote:Unfortunately there's very few people on mylsn.info with my numbers. I'm trying to decide whether it's worthwhile throwing in an app to Yale. I applied to Harvard, since although unlikely there's an incredibly small chance I could get accepted now. Yale's floor doesn't seem to have come down as much as Harvard's though. Do I have any chance?

I'm non-URM.

YLS is very unlikely, unless you have an extremely compelling explanation for that GPA. As in, you had a completely debilitating illness that tanked your grades for one semester, but you maintained a 4.0 every other semester.

How strong are your softs? Feel free to PM me.

Unfortunately my softs are probably average/slightly above average (for a K-JD). I'm also not a ex-President's grandkid or a Rhodes Scholar =P.

Considering the debt I'll have regardless I might just throw in an application to say I tried. You guys seem to be saying Yale might to crazy stuff sometimes so maybe I'll win the lottery.

This is the non URM person who got in with the 3.13 (and a 177 LSAT):

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/m ... le&u=82603

Lots of his profile is scrubbed. According to another TLS poster: "As I understood it (and I can't remember where exactly I read this), he had some insane story for terrible first-year grades and a 3.8+ the rest of the way, plus baller softs."

Source: http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/v ... 9&t=214534

This reinforces the notion that for a very low GPA, you need a *really* good excuse and to be otherwise bullet-proof. Not trying to be mean, but I think it would be a waste of money to send in the application.

I don't think a good excuse for a low GPA even comes close to helping you get into Yale. You really need some extraordinary soft factors to get in with a sub-3.8. A few years ago the low GPA for Yale was 3.61, and the year before that it was 3.41, so unless you have a good reason to think you are in the top 1% of applicants when it comes to non-numerical factors other than ethnicity, I wouldn't waste the money.

application to Yale is $60 bucks, right? I don't think it's absurd to apply unless you are going to skip a meal because of it.

Just kill the 250 word essay with something thoughtful and indicative of your virtuous character.

Also, how did you prep for LSAT? Yale will give you a lil' keybump if you didn't take any prep classes and studied solo. Conversely, if you took a powerscore class or something, that can work against you. They ask for this on the app. Either way I'd do it. It'll be $85 bucks total (yale fee + LSAC $25).

Fuckin' miracles bro, they're real.

teampeeta wrote:

daleearnhardt123 wrote:

midwest17 wrote:Yale's low GPA this past year was a 3.13. http://www.law.yale.edu/admissions/profile.htm

But obviously you're going to need a compelling application to get in with those kinds of numbers.

the info behind that link can't possibly be right. Yale admitted someone with a 152 LSAT? I don't care who you are. URM, 4.0+ GPA, you are not getting Yale with a 152 LSAT. Your application is laughed at all the way to the trash can.

Maybe it was a Rhodes or Marshall Scholar who is a bad standardized test-taker. I would guess that whoever that person was- and I would bet that Yale's materials aren't factually inaccurate- they were extraordinarily impressive in almost every other category YLS evaluates in order to make up for that score. Same goes for the person with the 3.13.

plot twist: it's the same person

IMO, it's worth it unless the $85 is a substantial burden.