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Hey all. My friend has a 172/3.72, and I've been out of the game for a while so I don't have an accurate picture of his prospects. Any idea if he's got any kind of even an outside shot at Harvard/any money at CCN/decent scholly at lower-T14? Top-3 ranked state university, average softs.

Edit: I should clarify, my understanding is that apps have been so dramatically down the last few years that lower numbers go a lot further these days (all my firsthand knowledge of admit chances comes from the cycle where apps reached an all-time high); I figured current 0Ls would have more info than I do on the last few graveyard app cycles. The score aggregation sites have pretty limited datasets for that time period, so anecdotes are fine with me.

bruinfan10 wrote:Hey all. My brother has a 172/3.71, and I've been out of the game for a while so I don't have an accurate picture of his prospects. Any idea if he's got any kind of even an outside shot at Harvard/any money at CCN/decent scholly at lower-T14? Top-3 ranked state university, average softs.

U serious bro?

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What's a "top 3 ranked state university?"

Thanks for the info! I hadn't heard of that site. Back when I applied, I just blanketed the T-14 and leveraged schollys shamelessly - I didn't do this whole number crunching thing. Also (and I added this as an edit to my initial post), my understanding is that apps have been so dramatically down the last few years that lower numbers go a lot further these days (for example, all my firsthand knowledge of acceptance chances comes from the cycle where apps reached an all-time high); I figured current 0Ls would have more info than I do on the last few graveyard app cycles.

And in answer to your question, I don't want to give his exact school, but it's generally regarded to be one of the three best state universities. http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandrevie ... top-public

Those were basically my numbers last yr and I got $45K at UChi, $50K at NYU and CLS which i bargained up to 60.

This cycle will probably be even more lucrative

jbagelboy wrote:Those were basically my numbers last yr and I got $45K at UChi, $50K at NYU and CLS which i bargained up to 60.

This cycle will probably be even more lucrative

Dude! That's fantastic news! Congratulations to you and thanks for sharing; I'd be over the moon if he ended up with that kind of outcome.

bruinfan10 wrote:

jbagelboy wrote:Those were basically my numbers last yr and I got $45K at UChi, $50K at NYU and CLS which i bargained up to 60.

This cycle will probably be even more lucrative

Dude! That's fantastic news! Congratulations to you and thanks for sharing; I'd be over the moon if he ended up with that kind of outcome.

No problem! best of luck to him.

He should apply to Penn as well. While I wouldn't have wanted to live in Philly, I regret not applying to Penn because if you get over YP, they can be even more generous than CCN. If he is mostly interested in biglaw, Penn for a larger scholarship than CCN is just as good if not better ROI.

I think that's solid advice; the number one thing I told him when he was starting his cycle was not to underestimate Penn. I was an idiot in my cycle and didn't prioritize that app, and I regret it - seems like a great school.

Oh, so he went to Berkeley?

Yeah, probably out at HYS, pretty solid shot everywhere else. He will get a lot of money at a place like Duke or NU most likely so that's where he should go if he doesn't strike it rich at some of the schools Bagel Boy is talking about

BigZuck wrote:Yeah, probably out at HYS

So you're tellin' me there's a chance?

BigZuck wrote:Oh, so he went to Berkeley?

Yeah, probably out at HYS, pretty solid shot everywhere else. He will get a lot of money at a place like Duke or NU most likely so that's where he should go if he doesn't strike it rich at some of the schools Bagel Boy is talking about

Zuck is right in general. a 3.7 GPA was not strong enough this past cycle to get more than $30K/year in the T14, whereas 3.75+ and esp. 3.8 could get in the $120K+ range at NU, Duke, Cornell, ect., which really makes those schools worth it over CCN.

For me, CLS and new york was worth the $30K more in tuition than northwestern/duke. If it had been a bigger difference, like $60+, I would have reconsidered.

BigZuck wrote:Oh, so he went to Berkeley?

Yeah, probably out at HYS, pretty solid shot everywhere else. He will get a lot of money at a place like Duke or NU most likely so that's where he should go if he doesn't strike it rich at some of the schools Bagel Boy is talking about

My first guess was UCLA - "bruinfan" to me implies a UCLA undergrad, and UCLA has a claim to being a "top-3 public" (behind Berkeley, with UVA).

FWIW, your friend appears to be at that borderline where external softs may start to come into play (vs. other candidates at the 3.7/172 range) for CCN + $$$. Be aware that if Columbia comes into play, their $ offer may not come until well after acceptance.

Vincent wrote:

BigZuck wrote:Oh, so he went to Berkeley?

Yeah, probably out at HYS, pretty solid shot everywhere else. He will get a lot of money at a place like Duke or NU most likely so that's where he should go if he doesn't strike it rich at some of the schools Bagel Boy is talking about

My first guess was UCLA - "bruinfan" to me implies a UCLA undergrad, and UCLA has a claim to being a "top-3 public" (behind Berkeley, with UVA).

FWIW, your friend appears to be at that borderline where external softs may start to come into play (vs. other candidates at the 3.7/172 range) for CCN + $$$. Be aware that if Columbia comes into play, their $ offer may not come until well after acceptance.

lol that's the coastal snobbery I like to see Michigan, Cal, and UVA are the typical public triumvirate though.