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Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 2:58 pm
by steel_shot
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Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:01 pm
by francesfarmer
Do law schools not grant fee waivers to international students? Can you email the schools and ask for waivers?

I think you're pretty good at CCN on down. Apply to HYS as well. You never know.

Check out mylsn.info.

Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:02 pm
by francesfarmer
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Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:34 pm
by steel_shot
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Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 3:36 pm
by twenty
Lump sum. Well. Technically, it's a "yearly scholarship" times three, since at the T14 you're never going to lose it.

EDIT> Except for HYS -- most of those are yearly, since they're entirely dependent on need-based aid.

Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:00 pm
by steel_shot
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Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:06 pm
by francesfarmer
steel_shot wrote:
twentypercentmore wrote:Lump sum. Well. Technically, it's a "yearly scholarship" times three, since at the T14 you're never going to lose it.

EDIT> Except for HYS -- most of those are yearly, since they're entirely dependent on need-based aid.
Thanks! I'm thinking with my stats I'll be better of staying up north though haha, the thought of taking on 200k+ in debt and finishing at the bottom of the class worries me too much.
You'll get some good scholarships, I'm positive, but you should probably stay in Canada. If I were Canadian I would go to University of Toronto in a heartbeat.

Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:13 pm
by steel_shot
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Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:27 pm
by twenty
If you're that concerned about debt (which you should be, I wish more people on TLS were), I'd consider EDing to Northwestern. You'll very likely get it, being that you're well above both medians. That might even be cheaper than going to Toronto.

Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:31 pm
by francesfarmer
twentypercentmore wrote:If you're that concerned about debt (which you should be, I wish more people on TLS were), I'd consider EDing to Northwestern. You'll very likely get it, being that you're well above both medians. That might even be cheaper than going to Toronto.
Oh yeah, scrap my idea, this is what you should do. What's the portability of a Northwestern degree in Canada, anyone know?

Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:32 pm
by francesfarmer
steel_shot wrote:
francesfarmer wrote:
steel_shot wrote:
twentypercentmore wrote:Lump sum. Well. Technically, it's a "yearly scholarship" times three, since at the T14 you're never going to lose it.

EDIT> Except for HYS -- most of those are yearly, since they're entirely dependent on need-based aid.
Thanks! I'm thinking with my stats I'll be better of staying up north though haha, the thought of taking on 200k+ in debt and finishing at the bottom of the class worries me too much.
You'll get some good scholarships, I'm positive, but you should probably stay in Canada. If I were Canadian I would go to University of Toronto in a heartbeat.
That's what I'm hoping for as well, but I'm a bit worried since they rejected a few people with higher stats than me last year. U of C or U of A would be okay by me though, and they only cost ~13k/year before scholarships.

Any idea of how much money I'd be looking at from CCN though?
Probably not tons of money. Check lawschoolnumbers.com or that graph above.

Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:39 pm
by steel_shot
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Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:15 pm
by serdog
From what I hear the NCA can be a pain, I heard one story of a student who graduated near the top of her class at Harvard, clerked for Chief Justice McLaughlin at the SCC and still had major issue with accreditation.

Realistically, unless you truly want to work in American Big Law I don't think the T-14 is worth it for a Canadian student. If you want Big Law in Canada an school other then Sask Man or TRU will give you a great shot, with your numbers you will likely get money from UVIC down, I can say that the majority of my classmates who wanted Big Law jobs got them . The bottom line is you can get a good quality JD in Canada for under $20,000 a year.

One final note with NCA there may be a requirement to do up to an extra year at a Canadian law school so if you are even mostly focus on coming back to Canada I think US law school are a bad idea it terms of cost and finding articles.

Bottom Line go to school in the country you most want to practice in.

Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:56 pm
by steel_shot
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Re: Canadian with 3.9/171

Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:03 am
by serdog
steel_shot wrote:
That story you mentioned is exactly what worries me about going to the US, I was already leaning towards only applying here too.

I'm really happy to hear that so many people who wanted biglaw jobs got them. If you don't mind me asking, where did you go to school? I was thinking U of T, but if I don't get in either Alberta, Calgary, or Oz. Besides U of T, will I have to be above median to get a biglaw job? I'm just worried about finishing in the bottom 25% and not finding a job (or one I'm happy with).

For NCA I was mainly just planning to stay here, and I think I'm going to do that. I don't really want to leave Canada, and what you've said makes me feel like it's the right decision.
I would throw UBC in as well they well in Biglaw, as for median I'm not sure I know at my school(UVIC) anidocally a number of students got OCI at a bit below the median. Just get in do your best and see what happens. Finally visit the school and pick the one you will be happiest at. To my knowledge grades are more important the schools to firms, ie better to get an B+ at UBC then a pass at UofT