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178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:41 am
by wamc
Thoughts? 178 is retake from a few points lower...

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:49 am
by wert3813
wamc wrote:Thoughts? 178 is retake from a few points lower...
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So yeah pretty good.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:56 am
by chadbrochill
I'd say its worth the app fee, but what do I know I'm a 0L

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:14 am
by NoWorries
Don't even look at Mylsn. The only real year you have to judge your chances is last year.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:23 am
by wamc
NoWorries wrote:Don't even look at Mylsn. The only real year you have to judge your chances is last year.
Why do you say that?

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:18 am
by dissonance1848
In at Harvard. Probably in at Yale and Stanford. I hope the other posters ITT realize that 3.6's with 173-5 were getting admitted to Harvard, right?

Also, would recommend you try to get full schollys at Columbia or Chicago if possible. Would be better than HYS.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:28 am
by Monochromatic Oeuvre
These are exactly Lavitz's numbers. I'm still bitter he didn't get in to HLS.

But yeah, you can count on Harvard. Although it should be pointed out that your numbers are prime Hamilton territory and you might prefer that over HLS.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:18 am
by Presidentjlh
Enjoy HLS.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:24 pm
by PRgradBYU
wamc wrote:178/3.83 HLS Chances?
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But in all seriousness, enjoy HYS.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:25 pm
by Presidentjlh
PRgradBYU wrote:
wamc wrote:178/3.83 HLS Chances?
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But in all seriousness, enjoy HYS.
Bro I got a 180/4.0, what are my chances at Cooley

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:33 pm
by PRgradBYU
Presidentjlh wrote:
PRgradBYU wrote:
wamc wrote:178/3.83 HLS Chances?
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But in all seriousness, enjoy HYS.
Bro I got a 180/4.0, what are my chances at Cooley
Lol. Apparently only a 75% honors scholarship (LinkRemoved), brah.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:18 pm
by jbagelboy
yes you're in at Harvard. Enjoy

Go have a shitload of fun this year

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:49 pm
by jselson
dissonance1848 wrote:Also, would recommend you try to get full schollys at Columbia or Chicago if possible.
Gpa is probably too low for full, but half seems likely.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:28 pm
by Lavitz
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:These are exactly Lavitz's numbers. I'm still bitter he didn't get in to HLS.

But yeah, you can count on Harvard. Although it should be pointed out that your numbers are prime Hamilton territory and you might prefer that over HLS.
Lol, imagine my thoughts when I saw this thread title.

OP, you're definitely in good shape but if your app is as lame as mine apparently was, nothing is guaranteed. I'm sure you'll get an interview invite. Don't blow it and you should be in.

Feel free to PM me if you have any concerns.
jselson wrote:Gpa is probably too low for full, but half seems likely.
GPA is below median for Chicago but not Columbia. Off the top of my head, carboncopy got a Hamilton with a 3.85 so I think it's in play.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:21 pm
by jselson
Lavitz wrote:
jselson wrote:Gpa is probably too low for full, but half seems likely.
GPA is below median for Chicago but not Columbia. Off the top of my head, carboncopy got a Hamilton with a 3.85 so I think it's in play.
True, but Carbon was also a magical wizard.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:19 pm
by Lavitz
jselson wrote:True, but Carbon was also a magical wizard.
You never know. OP might be one too. :wink:

But just in case, I checked LSN just now and there are 3 other Hamiltons with GPAs in the 3.8 range. 4 if you believe the person who put $200,000. Also 3 from last cycle. But you're right; a Butler is probably more likely.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:47 am
by Ti Malice
dissonance1848 wrote:Probably in at Yale and Stanford.
Can't go that far.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:47 pm
by soj
3.8x/175+s frequently get the hamilton. not all of them, though. not sure why some don't.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 7:06 pm
by Lavitz
soj wrote:3.8x/175+s frequently get the hamilton. not all of them, though. not sure why some don't.
Probably because the number of 3.8+/175+ applicants exceeds the number of Hamiltons available. There are 33 applicants with those numbers on LSN alone for this cycle.

And some of us didn't even get in. :?

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:09 pm
by soj
yeah, i mean not sure how they choose which get them. i've seen people who get the hamilton but none of the HYS (even H) and i've also seen vice versa. it's not always easy to predict at that level.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:01 pm
by guano
soj wrote:yeah, i mean not sure how they choose which get them. i've seen people who get the hamilton but none of the HYS (even H) and i've also seen vice versa. it's not always easy to predict at that level.
"Holistic"

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:26 am
by Huey Freeman
guano wrote:
soj wrote:yeah, i mean not sure how they choose which get them. i've seen people who get the hamilton but none of the HYS (even H) and i've also seen vice versa. it's not always easy to predict at that level.
"Holistic"
ah right, someday I might figure out what the fuck that means

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:21 am
by jselson
soj wrote:3.8x/175+s frequently get the hamilton. not all of them, though. not sure why some don't.
I'd like to know, too, since I didn't get one :( But info as to why I didn't, I think (if you care): My PS was fairly safe, and I didn't mention anything specific about what I'd hope to do with the JD, apart from vague 'helping people' stuff. Also, my background is entirely humanities-driven.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:45 am
by Monochromatic Oeuvre
soj wrote:yeah, i mean not sure how they choose which get them. i've seen people who get the hamilton but none of the HYS (even H) and i've also seen vice versa. it's not always easy to predict at that level.
I mean, maybe one or two whiffed on HYS. But the odds of an applicant being accepted to Harvard given that they received a Hamilton is historically something like 98%. It's the closest thing to a lock you can find in the admissions process. And that makes sense, because the Hamilton is pretty much specifically designed to poach Harvard kids. I don't know if the Hamilton has any "extra" predictive power in HYS chances. It's tough to say because it's almost exclusively 3.83+/176+, which is a category that is nearly a guarantee to be accepted at Harvard anyway.

That group isn't guaranteed a Hamilton because, as has been mentioned, there just aren't enough to go around. There are probably 50 applicants a year with those numbers and I think 20 Hamiltons a year. They have the option of picking their favorites from that group and it doesn't matter deeply which ones they pick because everyone in that group is above both 75ths and the yield rate on it is pretty high.

Re: 178/3.83 HLS Chances?

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 1:20 am
by untar614
Lavitz wrote:
soj wrote:3.8x/175+s frequently get the hamilton. not all of them, though. not sure why some don't.
Probably because the number of 3.8+/175+ applicants exceeds the number of Hamiltons available. There are 33 applicants with those numbers on LSN alone for this cycle.

And some of us didn't even get in. :?
Yeah, that's even weirder than HLS. Can't believe you wouldn't get into CLS. Wish there was some explanation for it.