$$$ vs. Rank
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:59 am
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And when it's not as cut and dry a choice?dingbat wrote:Sacrificing rank for money is quite common. Whether or not it's a good idea depends on the schools. As an example:
Giving up Columbia to attend NYU on a scholarship is a good idea
Giving up Columbia to attend NYLS on a scholarship is a really dumb idea
Apply to the schools you're interested in, see what the offers are (and whether you can negotiate), then come back and ask the question
Might want to consider the regional powerhouse in the area you want to practice.nebula666 wrote:In your case I would blanket the T14 minus HYS and then add in UT (if you want to work in Texas), Vandy (if you want to work in the south) or USC/UCLA (if you want to work in CA). You'll get someone to bite with a significant scholarship. If you have significant work experience, NU could be close to a full ride.
Depends on money and goals. I'd take UCLA over GULC even without money if the goal is southern California and Cornel > Berkeley for the east coast.John_rizzy_rawls wrote:And when it's not as cut and dry a choice?dingbat wrote:Sacrificing rank for money is quite common. Whether or not it's a good idea depends on the schools. As an example:
Giving up Columbia to attend NYU on a scholarship is a good idea
Giving up Columbia to attend NYLS on a scholarship is a really dumb idea
Apply to the schools you're interested in, see what the offers are (and whether you can negotiate), then come back and ask the question
UCLA/USC/Vandy $ vs. Cornell/GULC
Cornell/GULC $ vs. Berkeley
Berkeley $ vs. Columbia
We usually use one $ sign to indicate 1/4 tuition or less. If that's what you mean: Cornell, Berkeley, and Columbia, respectively. (Assuming you don't know where you want to practice. See dingbat's post.)John_rizzy_rawls wrote:And when it's not as cut and dry a choice?
UCLA/USC/Vandy $ vs. Cornell/GULC
Cornell/GULC $ vs. Berkeley
Berkeley $ vs. Columbia
I wouldn't count on any of this. Scholarships can be especially hard to predict.nebula666 wrote:You'll get almost $90k at NU and at least $50k from Cornell and GULC. You will have $30-40k at MVP and Duke and NYU.
It's a crap-shoot if you'd get into any of those schools. your LSAT is great, but your GPA is low, and none of those schools are known for being splitter friendly. On the other hand, with the drop in applicants, they might be a lot more forgiving. EDing could give you a boost, but you might want to roll the dice in RD because:mauryballstein wrote:A follow-up question: Then would I stand to gain anything by applying ED to a T-14? Forgetting about money for a second, how much would that help my chances at schools like at Penn, Columbia, and NYU? (Those are my top three, for reasons primarily related to location.) Is it safe to say I'd get into at least one RD, or is that wishful thinking?
And then: How does applying ED affect what kind of money you get? It seems to be that it would be advantageous for a school to offer you none, considering you're already committed. Or is that not how most schools operate?
Can you elaborate? I'm about to start begging UVA for post-ED cash and I hadn't heard that they were particularly generous.dingbat wrote:Some schools are more generous with their EDs (UVA is a prime example)
GTFO, Grizz. Doesn't even make sense ITT.rad lulz wrote:Lawschoolnumbers.com
I can't, because I didn't look into UVA. I just heard about it (on TLS)North wrote:Can you elaborate? I'm about to start begging UVA for post-ED cash and I hadn't heard that they were particularly generous.dingbat wrote:Some schools are more generous with their EDs (UVA is a prime example)
He's a one-trick pony in the on-topics. Don't waste your breathNorth wrote:GTFO, Grizz. Doesn't even make sense ITT.rad lulz wrote:Lawschoolnumbers.com
..........North wrote:GTFO, Grizz. Doesn't even make sense ITT.rad lulz wrote:Lawschoolnumbers.com
mauryballstein wrote: So: What's the best school I stand a reasonable chance of getting into? What's the best school I could get into with a fair amount of money (say, 10K/yr and up)?
rad lulz wrote:Lawschoolnumbers.com
Gotcha. Time for some research, then.dingbat wrote:I can't, because I didn't look into UVA. I just heard about it (on TLS)North wrote:Can you elaborate? I'm about to start begging UVA for post-ED cash and I hadn't heard that they were particularly generous.dingbat wrote:Some schools are more generous with their EDs (UVA is a prime example)
Oh, I know.dingbat wrote:He's a one-trick pony in the on-topics. Don't waste your breath
The schtick is old, dude. Bump up your post count in the lounge.rad lulz wrote:mauryballstein wrote: So: What's the best school I stand a reasonable chance of getting into? What's the best school I could get into with a fair amount of money (say, 10K/yr and up)?rad lulz wrote:Lawschoolnumbers.com
North wrote:The schtick is old, dude. Bump up your post count in the lounge.
That's a pretty small sample size on LSN. I think the topic was justified.rad lulz wrote:mauryballstein wrote: So: What's the best school I stand a reasonable chance of getting into? What's the best school I could get into with a fair amount of money (say, 10K/yr and up)?rad lulz wrote:Lawschoolnumbers.com
Let the new generation of on-topic megaposters handle it. It's still new and exciting for us. Just chill in the lounge, dude, you've put in your time.rad lulz wrote:North wrote:The schtick is old, dude. Bump up your post count in the lounge.
As annoying as rad lulz can be at times, he's right here.North wrote:Let the new generation of on-topic megaposters handle it. It's still new and exciting for us. Just chill in the lounge, dude, you've put in your time.rad lulz wrote:North wrote:The schtick is old, dude. Bump up your post count in the lounge.
His only contribution ITT washibiki wrote:As annoying as rad lulz can be at times, he's right here.
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HTH
so I'm not sure what you're getting at.rad lulz wrote:Lawschoolnumbers.com
TBH, checking LSN is probably more worthwhile than my entire post. That's what I was getting at.North wrote:His only contribution ITT washibiki wrote:As annoying as rad lulz can be at times, he's right here.
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HTHso I'm not sure what you're getting at.rad lulz wrote:Lawschoolnumbers.com
The rest of your post is solid. That's what OP was looking for and what the on-topics need more of, not RL's useless, one-line bullshit.
See, that's where I disagree. OP's issue isn't so cut and dry that a once-over of LSN could answer all his questions. With a 3.4 and a 173, OP is in an interesting grey area where he is looking at good money from UT and Vandy, some money from N, C, & G, and sticker at MVP. What should OP do? It's a hard question. The answer depends on a whole lot more information than is contained in LSN. That's why he made a thread -- to hear the debate. I was in a similar situation and watching TLS go back and forth on debt v. job prospects among the same range of schools as OP helped me figure out what I valued most. LSN couldn't have done much to help. TLS did. Both sites are tremendously valuable, but they're good for different things.hibiki wrote:TBH, checking LSN is probably more worthwhile than my entire post. That's what I was getting at.
rad lulz wrote:Lawschoolnumbers.com
This is WAAAAYYYY too optimistic. What are you basing this on? Close to a full ride at NW? Um no.nebula666 wrote:In your case I would blanket the T14 minus HYS and then add in UT (if you want to work in Texas), Vandy (if you want to work in the south) or USC/UCLA (if you want to work in CA). You'll get someone to bite with a significant scholarship. If you have significant work experience, NU could be close to a full ride.