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Berkelberkel wrote: wait another year to retake lsat

dr123 wrote:Don't go to law school if you have a masters degree in engineering from a top school with a GPA over 3.5

Ti Malice wrote:Absolutely retake. Do not waste that 3.9. You will not get into Berkeley or any other T14 with a 159. Study hard and retake in June and, if necessary, October.

delarge3 wrote:

dr123 wrote:Don't go to law school if you have a masters degree in engineering from a top school with a GPA over 3.5

I'm sorry, but this is bullshit advice. What if she re-took, got 175, then got full ride to T6 school?

Suralin wrote:

delarge3 wrote:

dr123 wrote:Don't go to law school if you have a masters degree in engineering from a top school with a GPA over 3.5

I'm sorry, but this is bullshit advice. What if she re-took, got 175, then got full ride to T6 school?

dr123 said what he said because a master's degree in engineering from a top school with a high gpa has much better employment prospects than a J.D. from a top law school; this is true even if OP got into a T6 (which will be extremely difficult and rather unlikely given the language barrier; it's just the nature of the test).

Additionally, OP has much higher opportunity costs than the average 22-year-old with a humanities degree applying straight to law school, and has not even expressed interest in actually becoming a lawyer.

nebula666 wrote:You are going to pay a ton of money to make less than you would with your current degree.

Yup. IMO, at the very least OP should try working as an engineer for a bit. I mean, OP already invested a fair bit of time preparing to become an engineer and excelled at it. Might as well at least give it a shot while you're still young.

Patent Attorney's make more than engineers do.

You should be able to get a patent prosecution job.

Aawaldrop wrote:One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the difficulty that you have expressed with the English language. It will only be more intensive as you go to Law school as most of the exams will be long form essays. Considering your prior degrees I wonder what is motivating you to go to law school and how do you think you will succeed if you don't have the necessary language skills.

Regulus wrote:Any chance the OP is a URM? That could really help her chances if she is truly set on going to law school at all, and this cycle in particular.

Suralin wrote:dr123 said what he said because a master's degree in engineering from a top school with a high gpa has much better employment prospects than a J.D. from a top law school; this is true even if OP got into a T6 (which will be extremely difficult and rather unlikely given the language barrier; it's just the nature of the test).

Berkelberkel wrote:

Aawaldrop wrote:One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the difficulty that you have expressed with the English language. It will only be more intensive as you go to Law school as most of the exams will be long form essays. Considering your prior degrees I wonder what is motivating you to go to law school and how do you think you will succeed if you don't have the necessary language skills.

Thanks for your advice.

I major in environmental engineering and minor in economics and statistics at my undergraduate.

While I have studied environmental engineering, I became to be interested in environmental law and policy. There are a lot of on going research and discussion on optimal pathway towards sustainable society. However, I found a big gap between law and current research. Many engineering background students are studying policy. I believe that there should be more engineering background students in law to solve the problem.

My first motivation of studying law is very naive.. I want to study more on law. I hope that I can contribute both sides.. The second motivation is J.D degree will be useful to work in international organization.

I have completed graduate level economics, statistics and environmental engineering classes. I would like to utilize my quantitative ability to study law..

dingbat wrote:

Suralin wrote:dr123 said what he said because a master's degree in engineering from a top school with a high gpa has much better employment prospects than a J.D. from a top law school; this is true even if OP got into a T6 (which will be extremely difficult and rather unlikely given the language barrier; it's just the nature of the test).

That's an oversimpification.

An MS in engineering has a better chance of getting a job, but the pay for a JD is significantly higher (biglaw tends to start higher than where many engineering jobs cap out)

Regulus wrote:

Berkelberkel wrote:Thanks for your advice.

I received a major in environmental engineering and a minor in economics and statistics at my undergraduate institution.

While I have studied was studying environmental engineering, I became to be interested in environmental law and policy. There are is a lot of on going ongoing research and discussion on the optimal pathway towards a sustainable society. However, I found a big gap between the law and the current research. Many engineering background students students with engineering backgrounds are studying policy. I believe that there should be more engineering background students students with engineering backgrounds involved with the law to solve the this problem.

My first motivation of studying law is very naive.. I want to study more on law. I hope that I can contribute to both sides.. The second motivation is J.D degree will be useful to work in an international organization.

I have completed graduate level economics, statistics and environmental engineering classes. I would like to utilize my quantitative ability to study law.

I totally don't mean to sound like an ass....... but I honestly think that law school will be very difficult for you if the above is a good indication of your true writing ability.