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waiting on december lsat score as well.
strong softs, some work experience (abroad)

applying to:
columbia
nyu
chicago
penn (5 legacies in my family)
northwestern
georgetown
michigan
berkeley
stanford

already in at duke

if my dec LSAT isn't an improvement, should i go ED II to Penn?
what are my chances at the others?

thanks!

You have a very solid shot at UMich RD. I know people who got scholarships with similar stats as you. I'm not sure if it has gotten less competitive or theyre are just fewer admissions with the falling number of LSAT takers.

Here's how people with your numbers have done in recent cycles: http://myLSN.info/q3rk0f.

Here's how things would look with a 172 (though it is getting late in the cycle): http://myLSN.info/6dgj6o.

That's a cool tool I hadn't seen before, thanks.

Is there any sort of consensus on how much ED/legacy affect things for law school?

Other people here will be able to speak more specifically to ED at different schools, but I can tell you that the effect varies significantly between schools. I believe ED would give you a pretty strong boost at Penn (since you're above one median and below the other), but the consensus is that an ED app has a minimal impact on chances for Columbia, for instance.

Every school weights the legacy influence differently, and I have no idea how Penn handles it.

LSN shows that you have a 50% chance at NYU and a small chance at YSH CC (10-20%). It depends on your risk calculation between NYU and Penn on whether you want to EDII to Penn. You also have to consider scholarship implications of EDing to Penn.

woooo hoooo 170 in december. no need to worry about EDing to penn now i think. thanks for your advice!

Congrats! Those two points will make a hell of a difference in your cycle, as I'm sure you know.

ps. am i overly optimistic to think i have a 50/50 shot at columbia with my new 170 given the lack of applicants? appreciate anyones thoughts on it!

sd1234 wrote:ps. am i overly optimistic to think i have a 50/50 shot at columbia with my new 170 given the lack of applicants? appreciate anyones thoughts on it!

not at all