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any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:46 am
by bluemoon
Hi everyone, I`m a international, I got LLB and LLM overseas, and got another LLM in US, also admitted in NY already.
GPA 3.35, LSAT 168, 2yr WE (1yr in local firm and 1 yr in Biglaw overseas Office)
Now for some reasons I`m applying for a JD in US, could someone give me some advices please? like what`s my best choice or where can I get some scholarship....thank you very much!

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:58 am
by dingbat
bluemoon wrote:Hi everyone, I`m a international, I got LLB and LLM overseas, and got another LLM in US, also admitted in NY already.
GPA 3.35, LSAT 168, 2yr WE (1yr in local firm and 1 yr in Biglaw overseas Office)
Now for some reasons I`m applying for a JD in US, could someone give me some advices please? like what`s my best choice or where can I get some scholarship....thank you very much!
If you blanket the T14, you're bound to find at least 1 school that bites at a 168, but you should eally consider retaking

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:58 am
by mr.hands
While you have good softs, I can't think of a T14 that will take those scores. The 168 is acceptable for one or two but your gpa is waaaaaaaaaaay below what they're looking for. You need to retake and break 170 to get into the T14. You'd have to get higher than that if you want a chance at any scholarship money

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:19 am
by bluemoon
dingbat wrote:
bluemoon wrote:
If you blanket the T14, you're bound to find at least 1 school that bites at a 168, but you should eally consider retaking
Thank you for your reply, I think I`d better to retake for a 170 score~~~

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:22 am
by bluemoon
mr.hands wrote:While you have good softs, I can't think of a T14 that will take those scores. The 168 is acceptable for one or two but your gpa is waaaaaaaaaaay below what they're looking for. You need to retake and break 170 to get into the T14. You'd have to get higher than that if you want a chance at any scholarship money
Ok, so if I can get a 170, it would be possible to ace at least a T14 or still vague possibility?
Thank you~~~

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:39 am
by dingbat
With a 169 and no GPA but excellent softs, Columbia sat on my application for 5 months and NYU originally waitlisted me

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:08 pm
by mr.hands
To get into the T14 with your gpa, a 170 is a must. It is necessary

If you get a 170, you'll probably need to ED to get in comfortably (otherwise you risk getting shut out).

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:28 pm
by Doorkeeper
Is your GPA from a US or Canadian school? If not, then it won't count in admissions and all that matters is that you get a 170+ on your LSAT.

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:36 pm
by JamMasterJ
maybe Cornell

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:26 am
by bluemoon
dingbat wrote:With a 169 and no GPA but excellent softs, Columbia sat on my application for 5 months and NYU originally waitlisted me
Ok I get your points but why no GPA?

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:28 am
by bluemoon
mr.hands wrote:To get into the T14 with your gpa, a 170 is a must. It is necessary

If you get a 170, you'll probably need to ED to get in comfortably (otherwise you risk getting shut out).
Thank you for your advices, I`ll try to explore a 170~~

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:30 am
by bluemoon
Doorkeeper wrote:Is your GPA from a US or Canadian school? If not, then it won't count in admissions and all that matters is that you get a 170+ on your LSAT.
No...from Asia, I also hope my GPA weigh less in my application, there`s a rumor that international GPA will be valued less important, is it real??

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:01 am
by dingbat
bluemoon wrote:
dingbat wrote:With a 169 and no GPA but excellent softs, Columbia sat on my application for 5 months and NYU originally waitlisted me
Ok I get your points but why no GPA?
Didn't go to college in North America

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:50 am
by bluemoon
dingbat wrote:
bluemoon wrote:
dingbat wrote:With a 169 and no GPA but excellent softs, Columbia sat on my application for 5 months and NYU originally waitlisted me
Ok I get your points but why no GPA?
Didn't go to college in North America

I know the international GPA will be considered less important but is that really "no GPA"? I`m happy to hear that but kinda surprised.....

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:10 am
by dingbat
bluemoon wrote:
dingbat wrote:
bluemoon wrote:
dingbat wrote:With a 169 and no GPA but excellent softs, Columbia sat on my application for 5 months and NYU originally waitlisted me
Ok I get your points but why no GPA?
Didn't go to college in North America

I know the international GPA will be considered less important but is that really "no GPA"? I`m happy to hear that but kinda surprised.....
I don't know about Asia, but in Europe there is no GPA, it doesnt exist

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:16 am
by mr.hands
If it is a "no GPA", then you need to hit the median LSAT for the school you're looking at to have a shot.

With no GPA and a 168, you have a shot at Cornell. Out everywhere else.

Re: any chance in T14 for a international student?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:11 pm
by Doorkeeper
mr.hands wrote:If it is a "no GPA", then you need to hit the median LSAT for the school you're looking at to have a shot.

With no GPA and a 168, you have a shot at Cornell. Out everywhere else.
This is true. You need to be at or above the median LSAT for a law school to take an international student (unless you've done some fucking awesome things to write about).