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Her GPA says "sub-3.6". So, technically a splitter, though not a particularly extreme one.chill wrote:If your profile stats are accurate, you're not a true splitter at either-- you're exactly at their 25th for GPA and above their 75th for LSAT. Glancing at LSN, I think you'd likely be in RD for either, but I'll defer to the experts around here.
That being said, Samara's post on how to be a successful splitter is worth looking up.
Thanks, I'm starting to wonder if it just makes sense to ED NYU.Swimp wrote:Her GPA says "sub-3.6". So, technically a splitter, though not a particularly extreme one.chill wrote:If your profile stats are accurate, you're not a true splitter at either-- you're exactly at their 25th for GPA and above their 75th for LSAT. Glancing at LSN, I think you'd likely be in RD for either, but I'll defer to the experts around here.
That being said, Samara's post on how to be a successful splitter is worth looking up.
OP- I've been preparing to apply with numbers somewhat similar to yours (I've been PTing above 175 for a little while and have a 3.5 GPA). From what I've gathered, Chicago is not a good bet for people without very solid GPAs. Columbia is a little bit more of a crapshoot, but with a GPA under their 25%ile, an ED acceptance is unlikely.
I think EDing NYU would be a waste. You're almost definitely going to get into NYU RD, based on data from past years. If I score on test day the way I have been PTing lately, I'm going to ED CLS. It's certainly not going to hurt, and there's at least a remote possibility that it could help. Why not?ChampagnePapi wrote:Thanks, I'm starting to wonder if it just makes sense to ED NYU.Swimp wrote:Her GPA says "sub-3.6". So, technically a splitter, though not a particularly extreme one.chill wrote:If your profile stats are accurate, you're not a true splitter at either-- you're exactly at their 25th for GPA and above their 75th for LSAT. Glancing at LSN, I think you'd likely be in RD for either, but I'll defer to the experts around here.
That being said, Samara's post on how to be a successful splitter is worth looking up.
OP- I've been preparing to apply with numbers somewhat similar to yours (I've been PTing above 175 for a little while and have a 3.5 GPA). From what I've gathered, Chicago is not a good bet for people without very solid GPAs. Columbia is a little bit more of a crapshoot, but with a GPA under their 25%ile, an ED acceptance is unlikely.
That much?twentypercentmore wrote:I wouldn't ED to CLS unless you're okay with giving up (likely) 50k~ at NYU. NYU was giving money to waitlisted splitters this last cycle.
+1 Use that 180 to get some lootInGoodFaith wrote:Why not apply RD all over the T14 and see if you can rack up some skrilla?
More.Swimp wrote:That much?twentypercentmore wrote:I wouldn't ED to CLS unless you're okay with giving up (likely) 50k~ at NYU. NYU was giving money to waitlisted splitters this last cycle.
NYU has a lot of students that self-select towards PI, and it distorts things a little. I think most of TLS would agree that CLS > NYU for job placement, but they're so close that even 30k scholarship could be enough to make you choose NYU over CLS.Is the situation similarly good at NYU?
No, you're right there is a bigger safety net at the bottom half of the class at CCNP. However, just because you ED at CLS or Chi doesn't mean you're going to get in. But if you do get in, what you can almost guarantee is you screwed yourself out of some money. The placement differential between CCNP and M or V isn't big enough to rationalize turning down a boatload of money. You should just apply to every T-14 and see what happens. Then use the money you get to negotiate.ChampagnePapi wrote:Am I wrong in thinking there is more safety at the bottom half of the class at CCNP? The fact that 85% of CLS got an offer last summer is the reason why I want to ED there or Chi. Is the situation similarly good at NYU?
I am biglaw or bust so even with scholarships I don't want to attend a place like M or V which seem to have more trouble placing their students at big firms!
I wouldn't get significant money at CLS or Chi RD though right?TrialLawyer16 wrote:No, you're right there is a bigger safety net at the bottom half of the class at CCNP. However, just because you ED at CLS or Chi doesn't mean you're going to get in. But if you do get in, what you can almost guarantee is you screwed yourself out of some money. You should just apply to every T-14 and see what happens. Then use the money you get to negotiate.ChampagnePapi wrote:Am I wrong in thinking there is more safety at the bottom half of the class at CCNP? The fact that 85% of CLS got an offer last summer is the reason why I want to ED there or Chi. Is the situation similarly good at NYU?
I am biglaw or bust so even with scholarships I don't want to attend a place like M or V which seem to have more trouble placing their students at big firms!
Disclaimer: I understand wanting to keep some anonymity, but you just saying you have a sub-3.6 GPA does leave a lot to the imagination when giving advice.
No but it allows you to consider options that include money from lower T14sChampagnePapi wrote:I wouldn't get significant money at CLS or Chi RD though right?TrialLawyer16 wrote:No, you're right there is a bigger safety net at the bottom half of the class at CCNP. However, just because you ED at CLS or Chi doesn't mean you're going to get in. But if you do get in, what you can almost guarantee is you screwed yourself out of some money. You should just apply to every T-14 and see what happens. Then use the money you get to negotiate.ChampagnePapi wrote:Am I wrong in thinking there is more safety at the bottom half of the class at CCNP? The fact that 85% of CLS got an offer last summer is the reason why I want to ED there or Chi. Is the situation similarly good at NYU?
I am biglaw or bust so even with scholarships I don't want to attend a place like M or V which seem to have more trouble placing their students at big firms!
Disclaimer: I understand wanting to keep some anonymity, but you just saying you have a sub-3.6 GPA does leave a lot to the imagination when giving advice.
Re your disclaimer: I'm well under a 3.6 but not below the "floors" these schools seem to have (3.4-3.5).
I understand, I'm just not sure I'm really interested in any of the lower-t14 options. My main concern is really maximizing my chances at getting a biglaw job in case I finish below median.moonman157 wrote:No but it allows you to consider options that include money from lower T14sChampagnePapi wrote:I wouldn't get significant money at CLS or Chi RD though right?TrialLawyer16 wrote:No, you're right there is a bigger safety net at the bottom half of the class at CCNP. However, just because you ED at CLS or Chi doesn't mean you're going to get in. But if you do get in, what you can almost guarantee is you screwed yourself out of some money. You should just apply to every T-14 and see what happens. Then use the money you get to negotiate.ChampagnePapi wrote:Am I wrong in thinking there is more safety at the bottom half of the class at CCNP? The fact that 85% of CLS got an offer last summer is the reason why I want to ED there or Chi. Is the situation similarly good at NYU?
I am biglaw or bust so even with scholarships I don't want to attend a place like M or V which seem to have more trouble placing their students at big firms!
Disclaimer: I understand wanting to keep some anonymity, but you just saying you have a sub-3.6 GPA does leave a lot to the imagination when giving advice.
Re your disclaimer: I'm well under a 3.6 but not below the "floors" these schools seem to have (3.4-3.5).
I'm in a similar situation...starting to question Eding to CLS with a 3.61/174. CLS has been my dream school, and it definitely has better placement over NYU, but I'm really starting to worry about the amount of debt I would have
Ok, so in light of your GPA, I'd definitely say my advice above is the way to play it.ChampagnePapi wrote: I wouldn't get significant money at CLS or Chi RD though right?
Re your disclaimer: I'm well under a 3.6 but not below the "floors" these schools seem to have (3.4-3.5).
Thanks for the advice. I'm just worried that I won't get in if I do RD, but if ED provides no significant boost then there's no point I guess.TrialLawyer16 wrote:Ok, so in light of your GPA, I'd definitely say my advice above is the way to play it.ChampagnePapi wrote: I wouldn't get significant money at CLS or Chi RD though right?
Re your disclaimer: I'm well under a 3.6 but not below the "floors" these schools seem to have (3.4-3.5).
You're not likely to get significant money at CLS or Chi RD, but crazier things have happened. What I will say is that you are almost guaranteed to get less money using ED than RD and as people here have said before CLS/Chi don't seem to give that big of a boost for ED applicants. Therefore, chances are if you got in ED you may have gotten in RD anyway. With a ~3.5/180 you should "spray n pray". If you get into CLS or Chi RD you can use the money you got at other schools to negotiate a scholarship or just tell them to fuck off and you're going to another T10 with $$. If you ED, you've completely lost that card and if they accept you they most likely will give you nothing. Even if you get biglaw from CLS/Chi after EDing you will have to pay that money back and that's 200k+ you could have saved.
Sent LSAC pic of my tits!milanproda wrote:180???? How??? HOW?????
ChampagnePapi wrote:Sent LSAC pic of my tits!milanproda wrote:180???? How??? HOW?????
Haha JK... just studied a lot in Marvin's Room. <3 Pithypike