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Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:23 pm
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Is this really a for sure in? Not debating, it's an actual question.twentypercentmore wrote:You're in, but why ED? Two points on the LSAT make you competitive for munnies.
Are you retaking in June?
Complete b/s... You have an good chance of getting in.soj wrote:No.
Chicago's medians for c/o 2014 is 3.87/171, so you're below both medians.
ED won't save you if your numbers are below both medians, and you're below both medians unless the medians fall.
You might still want to ED since you're almost definitely not getting in RD, let alone RD with money, but remember that if you get in ED (unlikely), you won't have a chance to entertain other options (e.g. lower T14 with $) or negotiate for money.
This is kind of sad if true, but I'll play. What kind of numbers do your friends have? Softs/URM? Are they actually below both medians like OP is, or below just one median (e.g. 3.9/166)?canes wrote:Complete b/s... You have an good chance of getting in.soj wrote:No.
Chicago's medians for c/o 2014 is 3.87/171, so you're below both medians.
ED won't save you if your numbers are below both medians, and you're below both medians unless the medians fall.
You might still want to ED since you're almost definitely not getting in RD, let alone RD with money, but remember that if you get in ED (unlikely), you won't have a chance to entertain other options (e.g. lower T14 with $) or negotiate for money.
Source: I go here; friends share LSAT scores and GPAs with each other, and plenty of people don't have those numbers, much less that UG degree.
JohnDorian wrote:djwjddl wrote:GPA: 3.85
LSAT: 169
Undergrad: Top 3 Ivy
Softs: great recs, BB ibd legal department for 2 years.
Type of app: Early
You're almost mirroring a majority of the ED's from last year that got in. Without ED you have a chance at getting in, I've seen numbers going both ways.
Be careful of EDing though, you'll lose chances you otherwise might have at scholarships, or using other school's scholarships to bargain. It's never a choice you can take back and you'll occasionally wonder "what if I didn't ED and got in to this and NYU with money and used my scholarship to bargain" or "why didn't I at least try for harvard/stanford."
I don't typically buy the "you're below both medians" thing because Chicago's medians are boosted by the ruby scholarship (full ride for people with much higher numbers). Check out LSN for yourself, I've obsessed pretty heavily around this cycle's numbers and they should back what I'm saying--especially for those who are in the first batch of RDs (you have to apply early-a majority of WLs and dings at Chicago are those who apply later in the cycle).
If you look back in previous years, you'll see applicants with OP's numbers actually did better last year and in years when there was no Ruby. The Ruby raises medians and makes it harder, not easier, for people with iffy numbers to get in.soj wrote:No.