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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:08 pm
by soccer88
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Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:12 pm
by top30man
It sounds like Cornell and Michigan are your best chances. I would just blanket MVP on down though and see what happens. Michigan likes well rounded candidates and your softs sound interesting. However, they will never overcome numbers. I'd assume in at Cornell, toss up at Mich and the rest wl/toss ups.

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:44 am
by soccer88
Thanks, any other suggestions/thoughts?

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:57 am
by jrthor10
I like your chances at GULC.

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:09 am
by hdsoc
I had similarish softs, and feel I outperformed my numbers (3.3, 173). But I had the advantage of a higher LSAT. I think you could probably snag GULC with your current numbers but if you want to increase your chances or get any $$, you should consider a re-take. You could even apply next fall, and then retake in december, after the election when things have quieted down.

Although, if you're starting your own consulting business, not sure what the point of JD is to be honest.

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:15 am
by soccer88
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:28 am
by Tom Joad
Can this guy get the GW ED?

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:36 am
by ahnhub
Unfortunately I think it's very possible (probably more likely than not) that you get shut out of T-14 with those numbers. For that GPA you really need to hit 170+ to feel good about your chances.

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:43 am
by soccer88
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:49 am
by bk1
Tom Joad wrote:Can this guy get the GW ED?
Probably not due to GPA. I'd honestly give him a better shot at NU ED (which might actually become plausible at 170+).

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 11:52 am
by Samara
bk187 wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:Can this guy get the GW ED?
Probably not due to GPA. I'd honestly give him a better shot at NU ED (which might actually become plausible at 170+).
GPA is too low for NU ED. 3.55 was the lowest GPA this cycle. (That we know of.) The WE is solid, but I think the GPA is too low.

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:13 pm
by top30man
jrthor10 wrote:I like your chances at GULC.
It's definitely possible. It seems like a lot of 169s got into gulc this cycle. I did with an interview but I was above the Gpa median. I think that Gpa may be too low for gulc without a 170. It's possible they'll jump because of his sorts.
Also I think The OP would be a great candidate for gulc part time so that the consulting/politics business can minimize debt.

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:18 pm
by bk1
Samara wrote:GPA is too low for NU ED. 3.55 was the lowest GPA this cycle. (That we know of.) The WE is solid, but I think the GPA is too low.
Didn't think it was a great shot, but I recalled NU ED being more forgiving to lower GPAs than GW ED.

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:23 pm
by Samara
bk187 wrote:
Samara wrote:GPA is too low for NU ED. 3.55 was the lowest GPA this cycle. (That we know of.) The WE is solid, but I think the GPA is too low.
Didn't think it was a great shot, but I recalled NU ED being more forgiving to lower GPAs than GW ED.
They probably are, if you have the WE to back it up, but I'd be real surprised if a sub-3.5 non-URM gets it. The program seems designed to poach T6ers and sub-3.5 applicants have a hard time with the T6.

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 1:10 pm
by hdsoc
soccer88 wrote:
hdsoc wrote:I had similarish softs, and feel I outperformed my numbers (3.3, 173). But I had the advantage of a higher LSAT. I think you could probably snag GULC with your current numbers but if you want to increase your chances or get any $$, you should consider a re-take. You could even apply next fall, and then retake in december, after the election when things have quieted down.

Although, if you're starting your own consulting business, not sure what the point of JD is to be honest.
campaign cycles come and go. The consulting business is an opportunity to expand my reach but its not my long term goal.
Well if law is your long-term goal, might be worth dropping off some of your work this cycle to really nail your LSAT and open up infinitely better long-term opportunities. DC is one of the toughest markets to crack so you should give yourself the best possible shot.

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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 1:18 pm
by soccer88
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:02 pm
by justicefishy
Bring that LSAT up to 170 and you're golden for at least one of MVP. I have similar softs, a bit worse of a GPA (3.4) and I'll be at Penn in the fall. I'd say retake.

Edit, just saw that you can't retake. You're probably golden for GULC, maybe Cornell, Northwestern, and perhaps Michigan. I'd say ED UVA might also not be a horrible idea since they get back to you so quickly.

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Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:36 pm
by mottainai
I had similar numbers as the OP this cycle - slightly higher GPA with a 170 and with 2 years WE - and more or less got waitlisted across the board (MVPDNG). I was rejected at Berkeley and the only T14 I got into Cornell, and I also got into UCLA with mininmal scholarship money (<10,000/yr). I even EDed at NU, but they ended up sticking me on hold, probably because of the whole scholarship thing with the ED candidates this year.

Fortuantely, I got off of the wait list at Duke and they offered me a small scholarship, which I happily ended up accepting.

I don't know if that helps, OP, but there's my cycle if you want a point of comparison. My advice: ED to one of MVP. If NU does the full scholarship for all ED candidate's next year too, then you're wasting an ED.

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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:32 am
by manofjustice
soccer88 wrote:Field Director for federal race, senior staff/press secretary to state house member in leadership position, campaign manager to same member. in the process of starting own political field consulting firm, will likely end up with a congressional candidate and state house candidate for this cycle. various internships/fellowships in politics (hill yada yada yada). excellent PS (does anyone every say they wrote mediocre one though really?). Retake is not an option, because of aforementioned work status. Trying to stay at schools that feed to major mid atlantic/northeast markets (DC NY). Thoughts? Is my WE enough to compensate for being at or below medians...will the downturn in LSAT takers and quality applicants offer any boost in the coming cycle? Does anybody really know what time is/Does anybody really care?
Time is malleable spatial dimension, setting the stage as much as the other three for the matter of the universe to dance. We sense it as we sense length and width. It has no privileged status. A clock, however, does not measure time, but is merely part of the dance time entertains.