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Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:57 pm
by abelay3
Hey, guys long time lurker, first time poster. Just a suffering from a little anxiety concerning my odds of getting into a T1 law school.

GPA: 3.1
LSAT: 168 (Will probably retake)
Strong softs (lots of leadership exp, internship)
one time disciplinary probation =/
and URM (African American)

I'd preferably like to get into the top 50, even T14 as unlikely as that may be. However, I'd be happy getting into DePaul (Chicago). Any thoughts?

Re: Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:09 pm
by minnbills
I don't know much about URM cycles but take a look here: lawschoolnumbers.com

That should give you the best idea. Also, I would guess you have a good shot at the T14.

Re: Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:24 pm
by Nova
Congrats on the LSAT!!

URM and splitter cycles are really unpredictable. It is really hit or miss. Def go to LSN like MB said.

T14 is in the realm of possibility but if you got your LSAT up to 170+, as an AA, you would a much better shot at T14 (not so much YSH/CCN). NU, GULC, and UVA are most likely to accept splitters.

You are likely to get scholarship offers from T20-T50. Im guessing you are from IL? Dont settle for a local TT unless its nearly free. You will have better offers. Midwest schools like IA, MN, IL, IN, and WUSTL are all probably worthy of an app if you dont mind relocating in the midwest. Plus Im sure you will have plenty of fee waivers all over the country. Go ahead and apply to TT and even some T1 you may not be interested in because they will help you negotiate schollys this time next year. Good luck!

BTW, Listing certain schools you have in mind would be helpful for giving nongeneral palm readings.

Re: Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 7:38 pm
by 2014
The standard URM who gets a boost tends to have a relatively higher GPA and lower LSAT so your cycle might be a wildcard. Here's a URM from this year with similar numbers, looks like he got really good offers from a few schools but a ton of WLs.

http://lawschoolnumbers.com/plaid2012/jd

As you can see from there though you won't be looking at any worse than a T1 school with a good chunk of scholarship cash.

Re: Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:34 pm
by abelay3
Thanks for all the feedback! I'm really optimistic about where I'm going to get into. Do you guys think my disciplinary issue will be a significant factor? It was one time- the rest of my disciplinary history is completely clean. I just don't know how heavily law schools will weight that.

Re: Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 12:41 pm
by abelay3
And I'm sorry for not saying this earlier.

I currently go to UIllinois and before this posting the (abbreviated list of) schools I was going to apply to were:

UChicago (reach)
UMichigan
DePaul
Loyola- Chicago
UofIllinois @ Champaign
Indiana

I would like to stay in the Midwest preferably, but I will also explore as many options as possible.

Re: Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:46 pm
by Doorkeeper
Apply to Vanderbilt, WUSTL, UVA, Northwestern, UT-A, Georgetown, etc. You'll probably get into a few in the 12-25 range. Maybe apply to a few in the lower T10 as reaches.

Re: Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 11:41 am
by splitsplat
abelay3 wrote:And I'm sorry for not saying this earlier.
I currently go to UIllinois and before this posting the (abbreviated list of) schools I was going to apply to were:
UChicago (reach)
UMichigan
DePaul
Loyola- Chicago

UofIllinois @ Champaign
Indiana
I would like to stay in the Midwest preferably, but I will also explore as many options as possible.
fixed. also +1 to wustl, a 168 + urm will definitely get you in at wustl with $$

Re: Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 4:41 pm
by abelay3
Thanks for all the quick feedback. This has given me a much better idea about my prospects. My only other question at this point concerns my disciplinary infraction, which I referred to earlier. It is the only mark an otherwise completely clean history. I plan on writing an addendum, of course. Do you guys think this will significantly affect my chances of getting into these schools?

Re: Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 4:56 pm
by Nova
abelay3 wrote:Thanks for all the quick feedback. This has given me a much better idea about my prospects. My only other question at this point concerns my disciplinary infraction, which I referred to earlier. It is the only mark an otherwise completely clean history. I plan on writing an addendum, of course. Do you guys think this will significantly affect my chances of getting into these schools?
It depends on the infraction. Most likely, no, it will not hurt your cycle much.

Re: Trying to get a good idea of where I'll get in.

Posted: Sun May 13, 2012 2:57 pm
by alpha kenny body
Let lawschoolnumbers.com become your best friend. Also, check the URM forum.