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Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:42 pm
by pepemaui
Hi everyone! I am a 39 year old MD, MBA. My undergrad grades from Emory were 3.57, MBA 3.83, LSAT 175. I am a board certified emergency medicine physician who is applying to law school. I understand the financial ramifications, but I am really just looking for opinions on Top tier schools like Harvard/Yale/etc.. I know my GPA is a bit low, but I have the MD/MBA as well. Does it make a difference or am I simply chucked out because of my gpa? Thanks for your thoughts.
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:57 pm
by dkb17xzx
Out of personal curiosity....why law school?
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:57 pm
by spleenworship
pepemaui wrote:Hi everyone! I am a 39 year old MD, MBA. My undergrad grades from Emory were 3.57, MBA 3.83, LSAT 175. I am a board certified emergency medicine physician who is applying to law school. I understand the financial ramifications, but I am really just looking for opinions on Top tier schools like Harvard/Yale/etc.. I know my GPA is a bit low, but I have the MD/MBA as well. Does it make a difference or am I simply chucked out because of my gpa? Thanks for your thoughts.
The MD is a weird factor and hard to predict. I would guess that it gives you a boost, but not a huge one. I would guess you would do quite well at most of the T14, but YSH might be out, to be honest. But I would apply to them anyway, because you never know.
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:01 pm
by pepemaui
dkb17xzx wrote:Out of personal curiosity....why law school?
I have been in EM (emergency medicine) for 22 years and had originally intended to apply to MD/JD programs. I enjoy law and find it interesting and useful in every facet of medicine, law, business, and politics. I understand the financial loss of returning to school, but as one gets older, experience and knowledge become paramount (at least with me)

Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:03 pm
by RedBirds2011
Are you wanting to use the law degree to go into some sort of medical law practice?
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:04 pm
by pepemaui
RedBirds2011 wrote:Are you wanting to use the law degree to go into some sort of medical law practice?
One would think, but I am completely open to new concepts as well.
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:05 pm
by JamMasterJ
Probably in at CCN with a slight shot at either S or H
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:08 pm
by RedBirds2011
I say go for it! Dr. Pepemaui MD, MBA, esq. a modern day renaissance man/woman

Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:13 pm
by hooma
Posted this in your other thread
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:14 pm
by pepemaui
RedBirds2011 wrote:I say go for it! Dr. Pepemaui MD, MBA, esq. a modern day renaissance man/woman

Former...LOL
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:16 pm
by pepemaui
hooma wrote:Posted this in your other thread
WOW!! I figured the initial review is a computer who simply eliminates GPA's lower than X, like med school. How can I "help" my application get "read"?? I think id someone see's it, they would at least consider me.
Amazing acceptances!!! Congrats!!
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:20 pm
by JamMasterJ
pepemaui wrote:hooma wrote:Posted this in your other thread
WOW!! I figured the initial review is a computer who simply eliminates GPA's lower than X, like med school. How can I "help" my application get "read"?? I think id someone see's it, they would at least consider me.
Amazing acceptances!!! Congrats!!
at top law schools, every application is read at least somewhat. Your gpa isn't going to get you eliminated anywhere automatically, anyway. Even Yale would take a cursory look at you simply because of your resume
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:22 pm
by pepemaui
JamMasterJ wrote:pepemaui wrote:hooma wrote:Posted this in your other thread
WOW!! I figured the initial review is a computer who simply eliminates GPA's lower than X, like med school. How can I "help" my application get "read"?? I think id someone see's it, they would at least consider me.
Amazing acceptances!!! Congrats!!
at top law schools, every application is read at least somewhat. Your gpa isn't going to get you eliminated anywhere automatically, anyway. Even Yale would take a cursory look at you simply because of your resume
Thats great! Curiously, and not condescending or judgmental...How do you know?
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:25 pm
by JamMasterJ
pepemaui wrote:JamMasterJ wrote:pepemaui wrote:
WOW!! I figured the initial review is a computer who simply eliminates GPA's lower than X, like med school. How can I "help" my application get "read"?? I think id someone see's it, they would at least consider me.
Amazing acceptances!!! Congrats!!
at top law schools, every application is read at least somewhat. Your gpa isn't going to get you eliminated anywhere automatically, anyway. Even Yale would take a cursory look at you simply because of your resume
Thats great! Curiously, and not condescending or judgmental...How do you know?
Spending far too much time on here, for one. Also from reading interviews with Deans of Admissions at most of the T10-14
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:27 pm
by hooma
pepemaui wrote:hooma wrote:Posted this in your other thread
WOW!! I figured the initial review is a computer who simply eliminates GPA's lower than X, like med school. How can I "help" my application get "read"?? I think id someone see's it, they would at least consider me.
Amazing acceptances!!! Congrats!!
Haha, I wish this was my profile! Although I can't complain with the way my cycle has turned out. I found it on lawschoolnumbers.com (if you haven't checked it out already, do so).
Good luck in your cycle!
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:32 pm
by pepemaui
hooma wrote:pepemaui wrote:hooma wrote:Posted this in your other thread
WOW!! I figured the initial review is a computer who simply eliminates GPA's lower than X, like med school. How can I "help" my application get "read"?? I think id someone see's it, they would at least consider me.
Amazing acceptances!!! Congrats!!
Haha, I wish this was my profile! Although I can't complain with the way my cycle has turned out. I found it on lawschoolnumbers.com (if you haven't checked it out already, do so).
Good luck in your cycle!
Do we think this profile "cravin jd" is real?? accepted everywhere except Berkley. hmmmm?
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:36 pm
by pepemaui
JamMasterJ wrote:Probably in at CCN with a slight shot at either S or H
CCN? Sorry, Im new to this and not up to date on the lingo:)
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:39 pm
by RedBirds2011
Targets of Columbia, Chicago, northwestern with shots at Stanford or Harvard
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:39 pm
by camelcrema
pepemaui wrote:JamMasterJ wrote:Probably in at CCN with a slight shot at either S or H
CCN? Sorry, Im new to this and not up to date on the lingo:)
CCN = Columbia, Chicago, NYU (the band of schools just below Yale, Harvard, and Stanford)
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:40 pm
by RedBirds2011
NYU not northwestern. My bad
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:47 pm
by hooma
pepemaui wrote:hooma wrote:pepemaui wrote:
WOW!! I figured the initial review is a computer who simply eliminates GPA's lower than X, like med school. How can I "help" my application get "read"?? I think id someone see's it, they would at least consider me.
Amazing acceptances!!! Congrats!!
Haha, I wish this was my profile! Although I can't complain with the way my cycle has turned out. I found it on lawschoolnumbers.com (if you haven't checked it out already, do so).
Good luck in your cycle!
Do we think this profile "cravin jd" is real?? accepted everywhere except Berkley. hmmmm?
It seems credible to me but you could always private message them and ask. They may also have insight about maximizing your chances as a non-traditional applicant.
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:48 pm
by Veyron
Y = decent chance based on unusual qualifications. They seem to like that and be willing to take somewhat of a GPA hit for it.
H = ?
S = Out, GPA
Elsewhere - expect broad acceptances.
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:53 pm
by Tiago Splitter
Veyron wrote:Y = decent chance based on unusual qualifications. They seem to like that and be willing to take somewhat of a GPA hit for it.
H = ?
S = Out, GPA
Elsewhere - expect broad acceptances.
I'd switch Y and S.
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:59 pm
by JasonR
pepemaui wrote:dkb17xzx wrote:Out of personal curiosity....why law school?
I have been in EM (emergency medicine) for 22 years
You've been in EM since you were 17? Or earlier, since you also have that MBA?
Re: Unusual candidiate chances 3.57/175 LSAT
Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:00 am
by Br3v
pepemaui wrote:RedBirds2011 wrote:Are you wanting to use the law degree to go into some sort of medical law practice?
One would think, but I am completely open to new concepts as well.
Thats awesome, get to experience two completely different careers