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High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:01 pm
by Vauldin
This question has been asked and answered, but the answer relies on the applicants specific circumstances, so I would appreciate it if some of you could give me an idea of how much undergrad prestige will matter for me.
I have a 3.9 and 171. Here's the problem; I am doing my undergrad at a California State University, which is not even remotely prestigious. And many other applicants will be coming from Stanford and such.
My softs:
Appointed by governor to serve two year term as CSU Student Trustee. Highest and most powerful position a student can hold.
Regional supervisor for two political campaigns.
Founder and president of Secular Student Alliance on campus.
Nationally ranked in moot court and mock trial.
President of moot court.
Washington D.C. congressional internship.
Over 100 hours volunteered at a food pantry in one of the poorest areas in the country.
Active in student government. Started a bike safety campaign and subsidized lock program with police department.
I know what you do as an undergrad matters much more than where you are an undergrad, and I think I really did well with that, and my numbers are great, but do you think I have any shot at Georgetown? Or Berkely, UCLA? Harvard maybe?
Thanks
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:06 pm
by tennisking88
Dude. No one gives a shit about UG. One reason you have to take the LSAT is bc it standardizes curricula among different schools. You LSAT legitimizes & complements your high gpa. Congrats.
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:07 pm
by bk1
Numbers make up the vast majority of your application. You will have an edge over every Stanford kid who got a 170 or less on the LSAT since you have a 171.
I know Stanford grads who are going to SCU. Seriously, don't worry about who you're competing against because your GPA/LSAT are already pretty good. If you really wanted to help your application further I would consider upping your LSAT to the mid/high 170's if that is feasible for you.
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:11 pm
by Teoeo
It won't matter at all. Have fun going to a top school
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:14 pm
by Tom Joad
http://lawschoolnumbers.com/youngmoolah
My numbers are similar and my undergrad is less prestigious than yours.
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:21 pm
by ph14
Doesn't really matter, check
this out
I'm at HLS, and I know tons of students from all different levels of undergrad prestige. I'm sure it's like that at Georgetown, Berkeley, and UCLA as well. Numbers are way more important.
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:41 pm
by dextermorgan
Schools won't give a shit unless you went to some unaccredited diploma mill like University of Phoenix.
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:04 am
by Fark-o-vision
All the above is credited, though I've heard around here that UG rep might play a part at top tier, small class size, type programs. Stanford and Yale come to mind, but nothing else. I also haven't done any kind of research to substantiate it, since those schools are out of reach anyway, but you might look into it before you get dead set on something.
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:50 pm
by senhorquick
dextermorgan wrote:Schools won't give a shit unless you went to some unaccredited diploma mill like University of Phoenix.
^This.
If anything it might help you in certain situations at certain schools since they want to have the most "diverse" student body possible.
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:59 pm
by 20130312
Vauldin wrote:prestigue
What the hell is this?
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:19 am
by senhorquick
InGoodFaith wrote:Vauldin wrote:prestigue
What the hell is this?
French?
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:03 am
by kerflux
This is what they teach in our CSU systems... smh
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:01 am
by spleenworship
tennisking88 wrote:Dude. No one gives a shit about UG. One reason you have to take the LSAT is bc it standardizes curricula among different schools. You LSAT legitimizes & complements your high gpa. Congrats.
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:25 pm
by Perdevise
I think I read somewhere like 75% of Yale's class is YHPS/other Ivy league/leet liberal arts schools. Otherwise, you'll be just fine. I went to a large state school and it hasn't impacted my cycle.
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:30 pm
by Br3v
Perdevise wrote:I think I read somewhere like 75% of Yale's class is YHPS/other Ivy league/leet liberal arts schools. Otherwise, you'll be just fine. I went to a large state school and it hasn't impacted my cycle.
That's a lot of choices lol. But even if that stat is true, I do not think those students are at Yale because they went to one of those schools for UG, they are there because gpa/lsat
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:06 pm
by Gail
Br3v wrote:Perdevise wrote:I think I read somewhere like 75% of Yale's class is YHPS/other Ivy league/leet liberal arts schools. Otherwise, you'll be just fine. I went to a large state school and it hasn't impacted my cycle.
That's a lot of choices lol. But even if that stat is true, I do not think those students are at Yale because they went to one of those schools for UG, they are there because gpa/lsat
Sure. But I think YSH are probably also able to be more selective and do use UG. I gave up on ever thinking about retaking for Stanford or Harvard, though truth be told my GPA isn't high enough anyways.
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:50 am
by keyon
DELICIOUS SPAM
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:04 am
by Br3v
Gail wrote:Br3v wrote:Perdevise wrote:I think I read somewhere like 75% of Yale's class is YHPS/other Ivy league/leet liberal arts schools. Otherwise, you'll be just fine. I went to a large state school and it hasn't impacted my cycle.
That's a lot of choices lol. But even if that stat is true, I do not think those students are at Yale because they went to one of those schools for UG, they are there because gpa/lsat
Sure. But I think YSH are probably also able to be more selective and do use UG. I gave up on ever thinking about retaking for Stanford or Harvard, though truth be told my GPA isn't high enough anyways.
Idk, I still think that if next cycle no one from ivy was at medians and everyone from state schools were, Yale would be full if state school 1Ls next cycle
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:07 am
by DaftAndDirect
senhorquick wrote:InGoodFaith wrote:Vauldin wrote:prestigue
What the hell is this?
French?
New X-men villain
Re: High numbers, low undergrad prestigue
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:05 pm
by GokartMozart315
kerflux wrote:This is what they teach in our CSU systems... smh
haha as i said to myself, "here's why law schools should care about the undergrad institution..."