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167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:36 pm
by FidusAchates
Given that I'm a retaker, what do you think my chances will be in the T6? Also, my apps are already submitted, so would it be worth it to send in an addendum regarding the score increase?
Thanks so much for the input!
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:54 pm
by Perdevise
I'll try to finish before Grizz gets in here. Most schools won't care about the retake; you're basically a 173/3.97. Check out law school numbers for similar applicants. Sounds like a lock for CCN, good chances at Harvard, depending on when you applied. I would only send an addendum if the school actually asks for it (brevity is the soul of wit).
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 5:58 pm
by bhan87
Don't worry about your retake status. One retake isn't a huge deal. Also, don't submit a score increase addendum unless you have a genuinely good reason for the increase (hint: you studied more is a terrible reason).
You will get at least one of CCN, possibly up to all 3 with a shot at $$.
HYS is completely within reach, especially H.
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:34 pm
by FidusAchates
Thanks so much for the help, you guys!
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:36 pm
by FidusAchates
Bump
Does anyone else have any thoughts on how being a retaker will affect me in the T6? I've looked at LSN, but it's kind of difficult to gauge from that.
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:40 pm
by Mal Reynolds
You already got your answer bro. All you're doing now is looking for someone to validate your fear that a retake matters. The only other thing that counts now is how late you apply. But with your numbers that's still unlikely to matter.
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:43 pm
by FidusAchates
Mal Reynolds wrote:You already got your answer bro. All you're doing now is looking for someone to validate your fear that a retake matters. The only other thing that counts now is how late you apply. But with your numbers that's still unlikely to matter.
Yeah, you're probably right. I guess I am afraid that a retake matters!
Thanks for the help
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Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:54 pm
by lsatcrazy
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Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:04 pm
by Grizz
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:15 pm
by Philosopher King
If I had those numbers I would be going to no. 7.
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 4:39 pm
by Yeshia90
Enjoy Cambridge.
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:35 pm
by FidusAchates
lsatcrazy wrote:I'm more or less numbers twin, and I currently am KB1-no-KB2, so maybe Harvard does kind of average. Or maybe it was just my interview...
Edit: IBTG - In before the Grizz
Well, let's hold out hope for some good news!
And thanks for the input, everyone!
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:35 pm
by Grizz
Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:15 am
by FidusAchates
Grizz wrote:Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit
Haha, I can only hope!
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:41 pm
by kertz
lsatcrazy wrote:I'm more or less numbers twin, and I currently am KB1-no-KB2, so maybe Harvard does kind of average. Or maybe it was just my interview...
Edit: IBTG - In before the Grizz
What does KB1-no-KB2 mean?
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 3:50 pm
by bhan87
kertz wrote:lsatcrazy wrote:I'm more or less numbers twin, and I currently am KB1-no-KB2, so maybe Harvard does kind of average. Or maybe it was just my interview...
Edit: IBTG - In before the Grizz
What does KB1-no-KB2 mean?
Invited to do a phone interview with Harvard's Admissions Dean (KB1), but ultimately waitlisted / rejected (Harvard informs all accepted applicants via phone call, the KB2).
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:13 pm
by hypothalamus
I hope all the retake optimists are right, because that would be awesome for me, buuuut.... HLS very explicitly averages scores. Check out their FAQs and see that even their language is very hostile to retakes ("The LSAT should only be taken once").
That said, I hope for the best - for OP and myself

Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:21 am
by lawyerwannabe
hypothalamus wrote:I hope all the retake optimists are right, because that would be awesome for me, buuuut.... HLS very explicitly averages scores. Check out their FAQs and see that even their language is very hostile to retakes ("The LSAT should only be taken once").
That said, I hope for the best - for OP and myself

H very explicitly claims to average scores. Certain LSN profiles and stories on TLS suggest otherwise however.
I liked one person's view that having retaken (and having the average of the two scores below H's median or even below their 25th) is possibly counted as a slight negative soft. If H wants to admit you (likes your numbers, your PS, your softs, etc.), they still will with the retake. If H does not want to admit you, it is just another reason to justify a rejection.
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:56 am
by Nelson
hypothalamus wrote:I hope all the retake optimists are right, because that would be awesome for me, buuuut.... HLS very explicitly averages scores. Check out their FAQs and see that even their language is very hostile to retakes ("The LSAT should only be taken once").
That said, I hope for the best - for OP and myself

I think most of the T14 claim to average, or at least "take both scores into account," but this just hasn't been born out by results in the last couple cycles.
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:54 pm
by hypothalamus
I hope Nelson and wannabe are right, because I have 11 points difference between my scores.... and I would very much like for the first 162 to be erased from history

Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:06 pm
by Philosopher King
I think the relevant question is, which score determines law school rankings? The last one or an average of both. That's what matters. As long as you can indeed convince them that you will be a good law student, then there is no reason to worry.
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:53 pm
by BigJohnso
I got into Chi ED with a 3.96/166, anything can happen!
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:59 pm
by Philosopher King
hypothalamus wrote:I would very much like for the first 162 to be erased from history

WAIT! DO NOT ERASE IT! Give it to me.
Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:21 am
by hypothalamus
Philosopher King wrote:hypothalamus wrote:I would very much like for the first 162 to be erased from history

WAIT! DO NOT ERASE IT! Give it to me.
Hahaha I'll attach it to a PM!

Re: 167/173/3.97 T6 chances?
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:31 am
by Errzii
If anything this might be the cycle where retakers are at less of a disadvantage than before due to the significant drop in number of test takers and applicants. The top tier schools that want to hold onto their medians probably can't afford to be as choosy about LSAT scores (at least compared to previous cycles) and that probably means conveniently ignoring the lower score.