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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:17 pm
by bioengineer
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Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:19 pm
by ConfidenceMan2
bioengineer wrote:just got my score, 173!!

3.87 LSAC gpa...will go down to ~3.85 i think after fall grades are added. will submit without though.
first time taking the LSAT and just got my 173 :)

female engineering undergrad and masters degree from an ivy. done in may 2012.

game plan? apply ASAP? where should i apply? sit out this cycle?

1 very strong LOR from english teacher, another 1 im assuming very good too.
writing my essay about IP law and an internship i did on capitol hill that focused on science and public policy.
Congrats!! Apply now! Everywhere T14 gogogo!

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:24 pm
by BrendanD
You're doing a Masters, but your LSAC GPA is going to change?

Regardless, you have a chance at all schools if those numbers are right. Apply wherever you like. I would wait until next year though, since getting letters of recommendation processed is going to make you pretty late.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:25 pm
by bioengineer
BrendanD wrote:You're doing a Masters, but your LSAC GPA is going to change?
submatriculation program...didn't actually graduate undergrad so i could keep financial aid. my grades count for both undergrad and masters.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:26 pm
by BrendanD
bioengineer wrote:
BrendanD wrote:You're doing a Masters, but your LSAC GPA is going to change?
submatriculation program...didn't actually graduate undergrad so i could keep financial aid. my grades count for both undergrad and masters.
Ah ok. See my edit above then.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy. apply now or wait a year?!

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:18 am
by bioengineer
please, anyone else?

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy. apply now or wait a year?!

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:22 am
by Ernert
Waiting will allow you to take full advantage of your numbers... in particular you will def be in line for scholarship money from solid lower T-14 schools which tends to be given out more generously early in a cycle. Also if you are engineering and looking into IP law, a year or two of eng-related WE will allow you to destroy at OCI.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy. apply now or wait a year?!

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:53 pm
by Perdevise
If you can afford it, go ahead and apply ASAP, but if you don't get at minimum CCN (I think you have pretty decent odds for YHS) than def. wait for the next cycle. A female engineer with an insane GPA and master's degree from an Ivy League school sounds like something the top schools would go ape over.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy. apply now or wait a year?!

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:58 am
by bioengineer
Perdevise wrote:If you can afford it, go ahead and apply ASAP, but if you don't get at minimum CCN (I think you have pretty decent odds for YHS) than def. wait for the next cycle. A female engineer with an insane GPA and master's degree from an Ivy League school sounds like something the top schools would go ape over.
i have a LSAC fee waiver so it will be almost free. thanks for the encouragement!


does applying to say HYS this cycle and getting rejected hurt my chance for next cycle?i would get some work experience starting in may

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy. apply now or wait a year?!

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:32 am
by 09042014
I don't think schools will hold getting an engineering degree from an Ivy against you. Not everyone can get into Berekly or Georgia Tech.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy. apply now or wait a year?!

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:56 pm
by No13baby
bioengineer wrote:does applying to say HYS this cycle and getting rejected hurt my chance for next cycle?i would get some work experience starting in may
Nope, it wouldn't hurt at all. However, a year of engineering work experience under your belt will only increase your chances (and would make you a much more attractive candidate if you're interested in patent/IP law.) If you feel confident you can find a job, I'd take the year off, apply as early as possible next cycle, and enjoy YHS.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:03 pm
by bioengineer
updated.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:21 pm
by sach1282
Why not apply to Yale? They don't do rolling admission as much as the others, and with your numbers and softs, I think you stand as good a chance as anyone.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:44 pm
by bernaldiaz
Why law school? You have a masters in engineering from an Ivy. Genuinely curious. Why did you do the masters? Why aren't you pursuing a career in engineering, a seemingly much more stable profession at the moment? Plus, you'll have to pay three more years of tuition and not earn wages over that time. I'd think at present you'd be able to command a pretty nice wage and would be in demand.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 11:11 pm
by 09042014
bernaldiaz wrote:Why law school? You have a masters in engineering from an Ivy. Genuinely curious. Why did you do the masters? Why aren't you pursuing a career in engineering, a seemingly much more stable profession at the moment? Plus, you'll have to pay three more years of tuition and not earn wages over that time. I'd think at present you'd be able to command a pretty nice wage and would be in demand.
Ivys are TTT at engineering. But she is golden for patent law if she wants it.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy. apply now or wait a year?!

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:18 am
by Flash
Desert Fox wrote:I don't think schools will hold getting an engineering degree from an Ivy against you. Not everyone can get into Berekly, Georgia Tech or Illinois.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:56 am
by bioengineer
sach1282 wrote:Why not apply to Yale? They don't do rolling admission as much as the others, and with your numbers and softs, I think you stand as good a chance as anyone.
i'm still working on the 250 word essay! i'll get it in soon. fee waiver so might as well.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:57 am
by 09042014
Also bio engineering isn't real engineering. It's a flame engineering colleges came up with the mid 00's to trick students.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy. apply now or wait a year?!

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:00 am
by bioengineer
Flash wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I don't think schools will hold getting an engineering degree from an Ivy against you. Not everyone can get into Berekly, Georgia Tech or Illinois.
i know ur trying to be funny, but i don't think going to an ivy for engineering is THAT much of a joke. i didn't even apply to those other schools and my department is ranked in the top 10.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:07 am
by bioengineer
bernaldiaz wrote:Why law school? You have a masters in engineering from an Ivy. Genuinely curious. Why did you do the masters? Why aren't you pursuing a career in engineering, a seemingly much more stable profession at the moment? Plus, you'll have to pay three more years of tuition and not earn wages over that time. I'd think at present you'd be able to command a pretty nice wage and would be in demand.
earning potential as a lawyer is much greater. also, i don't really want to be an engineer. i love science and don't regret doing engineering, but i want to work with people and not be in a lab all day. i am thinking about patent law, but who knows.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:58 am
by law4vus
Desert Fox wrote:Also bio engineering isn't real engineering. It's a flame engineering colleges came up with the mid 00's to trick students.
FWIW, I have a family member who is a partner at a BigLaw IP firm (one of Finnegan, Fish, and Jones Day). When I told them I had a friend at a T14 who had a bioengineering degree and was interested in a job there, they told me (and I quote) "Oh, she's absolutely useless to me".

OP has as good a chance as anyone at HYS, but I wouldn't say she's IP secure with a bio-E degree.

Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:31 pm
by kertz
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Re: 3.87/173 engineer from ivy.

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:35 pm
by sach1282
kertz wrote: Really ballsy to apply this late though...you'd fare better with HYS if you applied next year.
This is true. I would reapply next year if you don't get HYS.