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Omberon wrote:ok
Welcome to the "What are my chances?" forum, where arbitrary numbers are the lay of the land.Omberon wrote:Where are you getting this from? You just spit out some number.vincanity1 wrote:<5%
I apologize for not expounding to the degree that you felt necessary.Omberon wrote:Where are you getting this from? You just spit out some number.vincanity1 wrote:<5%
i.e. everything I just said is totally irrelevant to your cycle.vincanity1 wrote:I apologize for not expounding to the degree that you felt necessary.Omberon wrote:Where are you getting this from? You just spit out some number.vincanity1 wrote:<5%
You have a 0% chance of being admitted into Yale. You would need .3 added to your GPA and a couple of LSAT points at minimum.
Your GPA is way too low for Stanford. Although your LSAT would definitely suffice, especially given hispanic URM status, your GPA takes you out of the running almost immediately for a class that is extremely small and with better Puerto Ricans and Mexicans to choose from.
Your only shot is Harvard, which would be extremely unlikely due to both your low LSAT score and low GPA. However, Harvard does have an extremely large class and they might be in need of more Hispanics towards the end of the cycle.
Edit: Saw an earlier post with the info that you'll be applying next year so ignore the application timing point.
Several things I should add:
1. If you just finished applying, that really hurts your chances even further.
2. I'm also hispanic, and I've done extensive research on hispanics of past cycles. I have a pretty decent idea of the kind of boost we've gotten historically.
3. I'm also a 1st-gen with significantly better stats than you, and I was passed up for a Harvard acceptance despite having applied the first day. That being said, I'm only considered a non-URM hispanic since I'm Cuban and am also currently in UG.
Buena suerte, caballero
Can only be described as butt hurt.vincanity1 wrote:Omberon wrote:Where are you getting this from? You just spit out some number.vincanity1 wrote:<5%I apologize for not expounding to the degree that you felt necessary.
You have a 0% chance of being admitted into Yale. You would need .3 added to your GPA and a couple of LSAT points at minimum.
Your GPA is way too low for Stanford. Although your LSAT would definitely suffice, especially given hispanic URM status, your GPA takes you out of the running almost immediately for a class that is extremely small and with better Puerto Ricans and Mexicans to choose from.
Your only shot is Harvard, which would be extremely unlikely due to both your low LSAT score and low GPA. However, Harvard does have an extremely large class and they might be in need of more Hispanics towards the end of the cycle.
Edit: Saw an earlier post with the info that you'll be applying next year so ignore the application timing point.
Several things I should add:
1. If you just finished applying, that really hurts your chances even further.
2. I'm also hispanic, and I've done extensive research on hispanics of past cycles. I have a pretty decent idea of the kind of boost we've gotten historically.
3. I'm also a 1st-gen with significantly better stats than you, and I was passed up for a Harvard acceptance despite having applied the first day. That being said, I'm only considered a non-URM hispanic since I'm Cuban and am also currently in UG.
Buena suerte, caballero
Except he's right. OP has very little chance at HYS. If he was AA, it would be a different story.InGoodFaith wrote:Can only be described as butt hurt.vincanity1 wrote:Omberon wrote:Where are you getting this from? You just spit out some number.vincanity1 wrote:<5%I apologize for not expounding to the degree that you felt necessary.
You have a 0% chance of being admitted into Yale. You would need .3 added to your GPA and a couple of LSAT points at minimum.
Your GPA is way too low for Stanford. Although your LSAT would definitely suffice, especially given hispanic URM status, your GPA takes you out of the running almost immediately for a class that is extremely small and with better Puerto Ricans and Mexicans to choose from.
Your only shot is Harvard, which would be extremely unlikely due to both your low LSAT score and low GPA. However, Harvard does have an extremely large class and they might be in need of more Hispanics towards the end of the cycle.
Edit: Saw an earlier post with the info that you'll be applying next year so ignore the application timing point.
Several things I should add:
1. If you just finished applying, that really hurts your chances even further.
2. I'm also hispanic, and I've done extensive research on hispanics of past cycles. I have a pretty decent idea of the kind of boost we've gotten historically.
3. I'm also a 1st-gen with significantly better stats than you, and I was passed up for a Harvard acceptance despite having applied the first day. That being said, I'm only considered a non-URM hispanic since I'm Cuban and am also currently in UG.
Buena suerte, caballero
Didn't think he was wrong. Just butt hurt.Nelson wrote:Except he's right. OP has very little chance at HYS. If he was AA, it would be a different story.InGoodFaith wrote:Can only be described as butt hurt.
Definitely butt hurt.InGoodFaith wrote:Didn't think he was wrong. Just butt hurt.Nelson wrote:Except he's right. OP has very little chance at HYS. If he was AA, it would be a different story.InGoodFaith wrote:Can only be described as butt hurt.
Omberon wrote:That is weird. first of all Cubans are not URMs they are if anything consider just white. White and as non-hispanic as you can get, with still being Hispanic, if that makes sense, hence they do not obviously get ANY sort of boost. The reason I say that is because I have heard the complete opposite of what you guys are now saying.
Thanks Anyways,
You're welcome.Omberon wrote:That is weird. first of all Cubans are not URMs they are if anything consider just white. White and as non-hispanic as you can get, with still being Hispanic, if that makes sense, hence they do not obviously get ANY sort of boost. The reason I say that is because I have heard the complete opposite of what you guys are now saying.
Thanks Anyways,
Incorrect.Omberon wrote:That is weird. first of all Cubans are not URMs they are if anything consider just white. White and as non-hispanic as you can get, with still being Hispanic, if that makes sense, hence they do not obviously get ANY sort of boost. The reason I say that is because I have heard the complete opposite of what you guys are now saying.
Thanks Anyways,
Tons of misconceptions here.PBJones wrote:Tons of misconceptions here.
1) Technically all "Hispanics" are white by the US Census's definitions. Hispanic is not a racial category; it encompasses Caucasian ethnicities whose culture is in some respect Spanish (including lily-white spainards).
Sorry: I meant to say "typically." Most people indigenous to Latin America -- including most Mexicans and Cubans -- are deemed "Caucasian" by the US Census. Obviously, people from numerous races can legitimately identify with a given ethnicity (such as "Cuban" or "Puerto Rican").SehMeSerrious wrote:Tons of misconceptions here.PBJones wrote:Tons of misconceptions here.
1) Technically all "Hispanics" are white by the US Census's definitions. Hispanic is not a racial category; it encompasses Caucasian ethnicities whose culture is in some respect Spanish (including lily-white spainards).
The US Census and other big gov things do not consider Hispanic as any "racial" category, meaning they are not automatically considered anything and must also mark a "race" separately on forms, meaning White Hispanic, Black Hispanic, Asian and Pacific Islander Hispanic (Yes), Native American Hispanic, or Multiracial/Mixed Hispanic. Most are eventually categorized as white - if they don't choose a category when white is assumed.
Sidenote: You guys really haven't considered black Cubans?
None of this has anything to do with the facts of the matter, which are that non-AA URM boosts aren't nearly big enough to get your numbers (which are mediocre) into HYS. Go ahead and apply to "prove us all wrong" but if you're going to insist that your original opinion was right and anyone else is a victim of "groupthink" it begs the question of why you asked to begin with.Omberon wrote:No offense to anyone, but there seems to be some serious group think that has occurred and the fact that someone is still in their UG and is Cuban, meaning not on the slightest a URM, since Cubans are much more affluent as mentioned, is posting about my particular chances is borderline insulting.
Thanks Everyone though, Best.
It doesn't matter what the guy is. He could be a Smirf commenting on your chances, doesn't change the fact of the matter.Omberon wrote:No offense to anyone, but there seems to be some serious group think that has occurred and the fact that someone is still in their UG and is Cuban, meaning not on the slightest a URM, since Cubans are much more affluent as mentioned, is posting about my particular chances is borderline insulting.
Thanks Everyone though, Best.
You mean the analogy that he prefaced with , "my stats were significantly higher than yours"?Omberon wrote:It did matter because he used himself as analogy for my chances. Read the post carefully next time.FryBreadPower wrote:It doesn't matter what the guy is. He could be a Smirf commenting on your chances, doesn't change the fact of the matter.Omberon wrote:No offense to anyone, but there seems to be some serious group think that has occurred and the fact that someone is still in their UG and is Cuban, meaning not on the slightest a URM, since Cubans are much more affluent as mentioned, is posting about my particular chances is borderline insulting.
Thanks Everyone though, Best.