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172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:05 am
by ekbrown09
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Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:23 am
by protip
Are you just looking for affirmation here? You've already applied to schools both better and worse, and it seems like you know your chances already. You're only 19? Go get a job for a few years, make some money, enjoy yourself. You'll be much more employable after law school, and you'll be able to legally buy alcohol to get yourself through the process.

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:56 am
by ekbrown09
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Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:03 pm
by bobbyh1919
In general most schools would brush over one underage ticket, but it's much easier for them to do that if you're 24 years old and have worked for two years or something. Seeing a 19 year old with those violations you mentioned may raise more questions to them.

You've already applied, you'll probably have a good cycle, so just enjoy it. If you think you missed out on a school you like because of your age or something, take a year or two off, go work, and try again. I expect you'll do pretty well though.

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:24 pm
by ekbrown09
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Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:28 pm
by bdubs
Why UVA? Are you a state resident? If so, you're in unless your application is a POS. If you're not in state, I can say with 98% certainty you will not get in.

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:46 pm
by ekbrown09
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Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:03 pm
by bdubs
The only way you're getting in as a non-resident is with ED. However, ED is not worth it with your numbers.

Since your profile says you are a CA resident, you have a decent shot at UCLA and will probably get some money if you get in (I wouldn't count on a ton though). You should definitely get in to USC, with a little money too. You have a shot at Columbia, but not a very good one. You also have a shot at Duke, but your GPA is a bit low for them (you could probably get in off the WL if you're not a straight up admit)

Don't know much about UT, but being a resident matters there too.

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:32 pm
by bdubs
Consider Michigan, Penn, and NYU. I don't know if your choice of schools had something to do with weather, but weather really shouldn't have that big of an effect on your choice.

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:37 pm
by ekbrown09
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Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:39 pm
by JamMasterJ
bdubs wrote:The only way you're getting in as a non-resident is with ED. However, ED is not worth it with your numbers.

Since your profile says you are a CA resident, you have a decent shot at UCLA and will probably get some money if you get in (I wouldn't count on a ton though). You should definitely get in to USC, with a little money too. You have a shot at Columbia, but not a very good one. You also have a shot at Duke, but your GPA is a bit low for them (you could probably get in off the WL if you're not a straight up admit)

Don't know much about UT, but being a resident matters there too.
I would not go to UCLA with those numbers. OP: if you can do something for 2-3 years that will give you an interesting soft, Berkeley might be a good in-state option. Otherwise, mid-T10s

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:42 pm
by soj
You should still apply to peer schools bdub suggested (and others) to ensure the best chance of scholarship money to negotiate with. It's financially foolish to rule out schools just because they didn't give you a fee waiver.

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:44 pm
by JamMasterJ
soj wrote:You should still apply to peer schools bdub suggested (and others) to ensure the best chance of scholarship money to negotiate with. It's financially foolish to rule out schools just because they didn't give you a fee waiver.
yeah, I applied to schools I probably wouldn't attend for that very reason

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:47 pm
by ekbrown09
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Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:57 pm
by ConfidenceMan2
ekbrown09 wrote:I'd love to apply to more schools, but I literally spent the last of the money in my bank account on reporting fees and Columbia/Texas. I was denied a need-based waiver because my parents made too much money last year before they lost their jobs. I even appealed it and still got rejected.
Not trying to be an ass (quite the contrary, really), but it's hard to imagine you don't have options. If your credit isn't insanely bad, I assure you that you can get a credit card that you open solely to pay for these purchases. I understand if you're averse to doing so (that's a good sign, really), but you should consider that in the long run it's very, very financially irresponsible to do anything other than maximize your options right now, for reasons others are listing.

And, there's another possibility, if a credit card isn't an option: bust your ass on the side. Deliver pizzas in the evening or whatever. It's simply worth whatever inconvenience you take on to make that extra cash.

FWIW.

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:02 pm
by ekbrown09
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Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:10 pm
by JamMasterJ
ekbrown09 wrote:Haha, don't think you're trying to be an ass. I just didn't realized how important it was to apply to more schools. I thought the 8 I applied to would be enough... didn't even think about applying to more for scholarship purposes. I've never had a credit card but I'll definitely look into getting one now. Thanks for the advice guys.
with your stats, you really only applied to 2.5 schools

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:25 pm
by bdubs
How did you not get a Michigan fee waiver with a 3.61/172? Try running through the application process, they might be hidden.

I would guess that you can get waivers at Michigan and NYU if you try. Penn is less freewheeling with their fee waivers, but I still think it's worth the <$100 since it's most likely the best school you have a really good shot at getting into.

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:41 pm
by ekbrown09
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Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:48 pm
by bdubs
ekbrown09 wrote:
bdubs wrote:How did you not get a Michigan fee waiver with a 3.61/172? Try running through the application process, they might be hidden.

I would guess that you can get waivers at Michigan and NYU if you try. Penn is less freewheeling with their fee waivers, but I still think it's worth the <$100 since it's most likely the best school you have a really good shot at getting into.
You were right! I never received an email but I did get a waiver from Michigan. Thanks, just sent in my application.
Try NYU too.

FYI - If you don't write a "Why Michigan" type essay your chances there are drastically reduced. You should write it and e-mail it to them as a supplement to your app.

Re: 172 / 3.61 UVa?

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:27 pm
by ekbrown09
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