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Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:09 pm
by think5375
-Native American Male at Ivy League undergrad

-3.7, 168 LSAT (predicted-- 171-173 on practice tests)

- okay extracurricular activities: unique leadership position, peer mentoring, etc

- summer work experience: internship at world famous museum, law firm one summer as well

- will submit diversity statement - originally from southwestern state that is very underrepresented and very full of native americans. have been and remain actively involved in native american activities

- will have good letters of recommendation


want to go straight out of undergrad as there are few job prospects for me anyway.

What do you think? this is for next year. Very interested in NYU (may ED), Harvard, Columbia, Yale, etc

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:35 pm
by BiglawOrBust
think5375 wrote:- summer work experience: internship at world famous museum, law firm one summer as well
The Louvre? Smithsonian?

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:38 pm
by think5375
Museum in NYC.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:41 pm
by BiglawOrBust
Nice. Anyway, with your NA status, I think you's in good shape. Apply broadly, though, since your cycle may be difficult to predict. I don't know about HYS, but NYU is probably a strong possibility. But apply anywhere you have an interest in going. Best of luck.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:47 pm
by think5375
Great. I will try my best not to choke on the LSAT too.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:52 pm
by bdubs
Come back when you get your actual score, but chances look pretty decent. Remember that you will be applying pretty late if you're applying this cycle, so if your results are less stellar than you would like you should consider waiting until next year.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:18 pm
by think5375
Thanks. It is for next cycle.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:44 am
by D10
Your stats look good, but you probably need to up the LSAT a little bit. One of my friends/classmate (also an Ivy) got into NYU with 3.6ish GPA and 171. So, GPA-wise you're definitely alright, but you'll probably want to get around a 170 to stand a good chance for NYU.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:04 am
by CanadianWolf
You need an actual, not a practice, LSAT score. However, as a NA applicant, if you did score a 168, then Columbia is an option since this law school is seeking NA applicants.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:28 pm
by think5375
Is Columbia seeking NA applicants more than HYS? NYU? I believe I remember hearing about some sort of Native American law program they have.. maybe this has something to do with it.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:31 pm
by soj
Every school wants NAs, though some schools might be want them more desperately than others. As long as you don't choke on the LSAT, you should be applying to all of the T6 (as well as some safeties) anyway.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:33 pm
by CanadianWolf
Yes, Columbia was & is determined to increase NA enrollment since last cycle according to someone who works in their admissions office.

P.S. The advice in the post above is too generic & mostly incorrect. Certain law schools have programs targeting NAs & offer relevant cousework for those wishing to practice NA law.

Regardless, you'll need an actual LSAT score before determining where to apply. NA admissions is unlike other minority admissions. However, if you do score 168 or higher on the LSAT, then you should be admitted to several Top 17 law schools assuming an otherwise strong application.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 2:32 pm
by think5375
Thanks. Would you say USC would be a safety if i hit 168+?

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:09 pm
by vulpixie
think5375 wrote:Thanks. Would you say USC would be a safety if i hit 168+?
YES. OP, if you get a 168 or better you have an amazing shot at Harvard (171 = guaranteed), some shot at Yale, and are for sure into CCN. NA is definitely one of the bigger URM boosts; LSP should never be trusted to accurately predict URM cycles.

You are going to have an awesome cycle.


(Just make sure you attach either a DS or list your tribal affiliation on the application in order to get the boost.)

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:12 pm
by vulpixie
Also, don't ED anywhere. And don't hesitate to retake the LSAT if you don't hit your target goal of 168. If you do make it into the high 160's, only apply to the T14. Lower T14 schools are safeties for you.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:48 pm
by think5375
Thanks. I should be able to hit 168+, I have been studying off and on for about a year. So only apply to top 14 if i hit 168? What about a 'safety' like USC? UCLA? Texas?

Thanks.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:51 pm
by gaud
think5375 wrote:Thanks. I should be able to hit 168+, I have been studying off and on for about a year. So only apply to top 14 if i hit 168? What about a 'safety' like USC? UCLA? Texas?

Thanks.

You could have some safeties; but as a NA with a 168 and that GPA you will not need them.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:51 pm
by bdubs
think5375 wrote:Thanks. I should be able to hit 168+, I have been studying off and on for about a year. So only apply to top 14 if i hit 168? What about a 'safety' like USC? UCLA? Texas?

Thanks.
Can't hurt if you want to practice in California or Texas. If you've got a fee waiver I would apply, but I probably wouldn't spend the $$ if you don't get one for some reason.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:57 pm
by JamMasterJ
Come back with a real score, but if you hit 167, you are in good shape for the T10 and a 170 is probably a lock for T6

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:17 am
by vulpixie
gaud wrote: You could have some safeties; but as a NA with a 168 and that GPA you will not need them.
TITCR

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:41 pm
by think5375
TITCR?

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:46 pm
by 20130312
think5375 wrote:TITCR?
Google.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:36 pm
by baller
InGoodFaith wrote:
think5375 wrote:TITCR?
Google.
This
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Correct
Response

Way to many acronyms on this site.

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:14 am
by 20130312
baller wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
think5375 wrote:TITCR?
Google.
This
Is
The
Correct Credited
Response

Way to many acronyms on this site.
FTFY

Re: Chances for T14-- Minority

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:57 pm
by baller
InGoodFaith wrote:
baller wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
think5375 wrote:TITCR?
Google.
This
Is
The
Correct Credited
Response

Way to many acronyms on this site.
FTFY
Like I said, to many